Mother God!?!
Warning: This is a long and uninteresting post that rambles
Friday on my way back from work I decided to stop in at pentagon city mall instead of going back to our apartment because Danielle was going to be home late. I got myself a McDonald’s ice cream and just started people watching. It wasn’t long before I was approached by two young people who introduced themselves and asked if I ever read the Bible. I said yup. Then the guy asked me if I’d ever heard of “mother god.” “nope,” i said. He then asked me if I believed what the Bible says… “yes, when it is read in context,” I said… Knowing that some crazy interpretations where about to be revealed.
I myself have in the past approached people in public areas with a partner to share with them my beliefs, so I was quite aware of the tactics that they use to get someone involved and to keep the conversation focused… But man was it annoying when I knew what he was doing and he would change his tactics when he discovered I knew more than most people he spoke with. The kid would read a verse and have me finish the last word or the most significant part. And, instead of addressing an issue that I raise he would just reread one of five verses… He and his partner would not listen to me they would just repeat and circle–it was quite annoying. But I still enjoy being able to talk about the Bible and cause people to think about it in a correct way.
First he read Genesis 1:26-27
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
And he asked me questions like: “Does God speak in singular or plural?” “Who did God create in His image?” Already this kid is insulting my intelligence, and this verse doesn’t reveal anything about a “Mother God.” I ask him who he thinks “us” refers to in v. 26 and he says the Trinity, “the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,” hey, so do I. Then by the way he kept asking my to repeat who God created in His image… aka “male and female,” that he believes there is a Father God and a Mother God, the male is created in the image of the Father God and the female in the image of the Mother God. Quite a stretch if you ask me! I proposed to different interpretations of the text to them. One… God created man in his image and woman came later from man. Two… the image of God does no mean something physical and something like a soul that both men and women posses. The dude also brought up the fact that God created Eve to be the helper of Adam, which I couldn’t understand as something that argued his point.
Next they quoted Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Again he made me read certain phrases like “divine nature,” “clearly seen,” and “so that men are without excuse.” And again, great verse but what does this say about a “mother god?” Is the duality of a father and mother God clearly seen?”
The best verse and the one that we chatted about the longest was in Revelation 22:14-17
“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.”I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
There interpretation was that “the bride” is the “mother god” and that this verse shows that the “mother god” gives salvation. Before being able to look at the verse I told them that in context that it becomes apparent that “the bride” most likely refers to the Church. Although they readiley admitted that “the bride” else where in the NT refers to the Church it does not in this instance or some others in prophecy. Crazy! They’re reasoning is that the Church could not give salvation. First off I’m using the NIV and I’m pretty sure they were using another version but I don’t see how they could possibly see that this verse shows that Salvation comes from the bride. “The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” The verse is just saying let he who knows testify. It is not “Come to me for eternal life,” it’s more a “Come and enjoy what God has offered us.” It make perfect sense that the Spirit, Church, and those who hear would say, “Come!”
Other questions there were a few other verses but these were they’re strongest and I know that isn’t saying much. The said they went to a “bible church,” and that they followed the old testament law, like the Sabbath, and that they knew the name of the Holy Spirit. I asked them to take me to their leader. They refused, however, earlier on they said that they had a table setup somewhere. During the course of evens I also asked if there was a “mother god” wouldn’t Jesus have known and testified about it?? They claim he did when he said he’d return in the last day. Wah? Anyway… Just thought I’d throw that out there. I’d love to hear a clear argument for this or find the church that teaches it.
Though it helped to pass the time I must say that I did not handlle the situation the best I could have. It was very easy for me to just argue with them and not reach out. I hope that in the future I would seek to put them first. Someone wise once said something like, “I will forfeit all points except the most important.”
UPDATE (6/29/2011): Looks like http://www.examiningthewmscog.com has a lot of good information if you have more questions about this group.
Hello, James…
Your account fascinated me. I just had an encounter with this same phenomenon (in Silicon Valley, CA). I Google’d and found your recent BLOG entry.
Quickly.. They rang my doorbell. I engaged them and asked that if I hear them, they’ll hear me. Interesting signs: they did not want to pray together and got agitated when I did pray out loud. Eventually, they left claiming “..then I don’t believe the Bible” as their response to my sharing and questioning their interpretation (especially reminding them to take the entire Bible in context as they stroll verse-to-verse).
Anyhow, I felt the Holy Spirit urging me to basically tell them to stop what they’re doing. I had my girlfriend praying for me at the time. (My faith and belief compelled me..)
What do you know of this group?
-Darren
aloha.gooch@gmail.com
These people are so mislead it made me want to cry as they continued with their false doctrine on my doorstep. One of the girls took my hand as she was making her final plea of converting me and as we held hands I prayed aloud for God to reveal His truth and for the Holy Spirit to come into her life. I’m sure she didn’t want it but, we were already holding hands, Why not?? lol I love God!
Also, they told me to read Galatians 4 quoting vs 26 “But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.” But, two verses up in gal 4:24 it says “These things may be taken FIGURATIVELY, for the women represent two covenants.” Then goes on to explain Hagar and Sarah metaphorically as slaves to sin and free in Christ.
Please… Pray against Satan’s deception in your cities and in Korea where this cult was founded. To Christ Jesus, the ONLY way, truth and life, be the glory!!!
Matthew 24: v 4-5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mark 13: v 21-23
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
I also had a similar experience, here in Philadelphia. There are people around campus (Drexel University and UPenn) who are walking around trying to talk to about God the mother in between classes. I stopped and talked to one for about 45 minutes, and then went on my own and researched it… eventually decided that I dont really buy into it. Their whole argument was based on verses that are taken out of context, as you suggested.
Anyway, just thought I would share my own experience also.
Dustin
dah54@drexel.edu
What a small world. I live in Arlington too and the same thing happened to my friend a few days ago. He got out of class and two people went up to him, talking about the same verses and mother God. So he rebuttled and kept them quiet.
Just wanted to share this with you. Take care and GOD bless!
-Linda
lphothon@yahoo.com
Wow, thanks all, it is interesting to get word on all these “sightings.” Post here if you find any information on the group. Thanks.
Hi James,I have a grandaughter who is studying with an aunt who is in the -Church of God,and husband is already in a short time a pastor,I asked if she had seen her aunt lately and how were they,they both began to relate how they were,and of course how their new found beliefs were changing their lives.They told me for the first time about this ‘Mother of God’,I’m 63 yrs. old,never heard of this,I read my bible daily,I’ve tried to stay close to it since age of 12.I’ve attended a few churches,less than 10 :) read on all others briefly now and then,never have been baptized,I like to
consider myself as a spiritual person rather than a religious person,I feel religions are founded by men/man and have free will to say and do what is possible within laws,and followers are free to believe what makes sense to them.I’am really uncomfortable for my granddaughter and her family.
They showed me a booklet showing a picture of the church group in front they pointed out the ‘Mother of God’,an older korean woman dressed in white.We shared scriptures,talked,then they said they have a study on 3/15/11 they invited me,I said yes,could’nt help being curious,I’m praying for strength and guidance,peace.Praying the knowledge I’ve acquired will make a differance to my granddaughter and the rest.I know how it is when someone finds something they believe in ‘passionately’ they become “very” prsistent,I don’t want to projaect that about what I’ve learned.I did not finish high school,no college,I just try to use my common sense in most things I do.I try to be open-minded.In the state that the world is today many are fearful,vulnerable.Looking forward to tommorow,taking scriptures , Love to work together on this topics. :)
I pray for all.Enjoy sharing,learning. Blessings,Rosa
p.s.
serch websites,could not find any pictures of ‘Mother of God’,no real info.of her on her. rosa
Hello James Im glad you made this blog. I have one as well. Well actually I have a website, blog, and a youtube video. I take a different approach. I was actually a member of this cult you are talking about! I invite (with your permission) anyone willing to hear how it is on the inside. Here is my webpage:
http://churchofgodworldmissionsocietytruestoryofaexmember.yolasite.com/
Please help me stop this cult. It is dangerous and can destroy lives.
This is really strange.. I live in Perth, Australia and I got this yesterday – they rang the doorbell and claimed this is some kind of a ‘secret’ that can only be revealed after the second comming of Jesus, left me pretty confused.
Anyway, they revealed they’re part of ‘World Mission Society Church of God’ http://english.watv.org from Korea. On that website they have information behind their reasoning, I’m going through it now but this is certainly quite “out there”.
Wow, it is soo good to see finally that the TRUTH is out there, and at least it’s in your head and in your thoughts…otherwise you wouldn’t be puting it on this blog, si. Soon it will be in your HEARTS..They say the truth will set you free!! And duh, do you actually think that GOD is a single father, NOT, I always wondered about it too but it makes sense, the truth is amazing must check it out, only GOD would want to save our souls…
without your mother in phesical world you have no life. because mother is the one who give life.It is the same also in espiritual world, if we dont believe heavenly mother, we have no life also. it means that we cann`t have salvation.
..yeah, you’re right… in fact, I’m a member of this world mission society.. were you already baptized in this religion??
I think that you are confused in thinking that because man was created in God’s image, God looks like us. It doesn’t work that way.
Hi James,
I googled mother god korea and found a wikipedia entry on them. That is also how i found your blog.
Here is what happened to me… (it’s long):
My sister and I were approached in a Barnes and Noble in NYC yesterday and the same happened. When they asked if they could discuss the Bible, I agreed, thinking they were just normal street evangelization teams. Then they started the mother God business and I immediately knew it was going to be interesting.
They also took me to Revelation, Genesis (employing the finish the sentence tactics) and even the parable where Jesus invited guests to a wedding to say that the bride in Rev. couldn’t possibly be the church because in the parable we are the guests and some other hokey stuff. They repeatedly asked, who is the “bride/mother” and I repeatedly answered the church which annoyed them. Any question that I asked was ignored or any point I brought up was dismissed with a “you see there is soo much more that we can show you to answer your questions but it is difficult to with such a short period of study.” I asked them what was their point in showing me this, to get to the point but they didn’t want to be clear and also did went over the same bible verses in different order.
Finally, I told them that my bottom line was ” salvation comes through Jesus and Jesus only” (and the main points of the salvation prayer)and this is where their annoyance and anger with me finally let the cat out of the bag as to what they were trying to make me believe. They said Jesus came 2000 yrs ago and no one believed him bc they were stuck on one bible verse (which they didnt show me) and now I was stuck on one bible verse (which they said was in Isaiah)that said salvation came only through Jesus and that is why I wouldnt recognize second coming Christ. I told them the WHOLE Bible was revelation that salvation came through Jesus Christ. I asked them what church they belonged to, they said Church of God but at first wouldn’t tell me the name of their pastor and wanted to know why I wanted that information. They also didn’t tell me whre their church was or what the church’s website was. I told them I wanted to know who came up with their revelation since they at one point said they were the only church in the world that had received this revelation. They said they got it from God and finally said in this “culty” way that they had seen second coming christ and that mother God was already here on earth in human skin because the events of revelation were already occuring. And they had seen her as well. She said that Jesus was married and God was married, etc.
It was too much. I realized I had spent too much time arguing the false doctrine because I was so annoyed the devil would come up with stuff like this, that I had forgotten to pray for them. I was reminded of the book “23 Minutes in Hell” and didn’t want them to face the same fate because they had been fooled into this. I told them that I prayed that God’s mercy would abound in this situation and that the Holy Spirit would lead all of us to true salvation through Jesus because I wanted all of us to enjoy heaven. And this basically closed the conversation because one of them blew up at me saying, “You don’t need to pray for me!” to which I responded, “Everyone needs prayer, prayer doesnt hurt anyone.” She then said, “The time of Jesus is over. This is the time of the spirit.” All this time, I am thinking, “These are Christians that were fooled into believing lies and they are adding things that are sooo off but if only they can be told that all this extra stuff is unnecessary.” But wen they said that about Jesus, and in the tone that they said it in I could tell they didnt think Jesus Christ was God but when she finished her tirade off, by saying ” Your God is NOT the same as My God!” it was like what she was saying carried enough weight for me to realize that they are definitely part of a Cult with demonic teaching.
I know this sounds harsh, and normally, I’m not compelled to be soo extremist. But it was like the Holy Spirit told me “listen to her! She is not talking about Yahweh/Jehovah. Only the devil could say espouse such false idolatry and I realized this was a way of worshipping other gods. They use our Bible (theirs was the NIV) but they use it to talk about a totally different God than we do. Their trinity is not or Holy Trinity. Their christ is not our Jesus Christ of Nazareth, fully human, fully divine.
So…my sister and I immediately walked away and as I walked away I asked Jesus to rebuke the demons and bind their mouths so that they couldn’t continue to lie to other unsuspecting people who don’t know their Bible. I rebuked the devil and asked God to have mercy on everyone they spoke to so they wouldn’t fall for it and I also asked God to have mercy on those girls so that they would stop believing that stuff.
But, I’ve been thinking about those girls and wish I could have done more. I need to have some sort of verse by verse rebuttal to all their claims so if I am ever approached again, I can do more…it’s just I had never imagined anyone would ever say anything as ridiculous as what they said and so was a little taken aback. Who would have thought someone would say there is a mother god here on earth in human form, blah blah blah? IT is so out of left field!
Wow. I too googled church of god “mother god” and got your website.
Short version, came home from work (Silicon Valley) and my wife with daughter in arm was already talking with them. Since dinner was burning on the stove, I started talking with them while my wife went to finish dinner.
Just as you described she went right to Genesis 1:26-27, and she really couldn’t tell me what “image” meant, whether it was spiritual or physical. She just kept jumping to the “fact” that there must be a male and female God. When I wouldn’t agree with the logic she was using she became agitated and closed her bible and stopped talking. My wife thought she was using the NIV, but I doubt it as her version had some different wording at the end of v27.
At that point the man she was with stepped in and stated that we needed the “mother god” for salvation. I told him that I was unaware of any scripture that supported this belief. Soon after they were obviously ready to leave, and I mentioned that I would be open to further study.
We’ll see if they come back. I am truly fascinated how they have come to their conclusions, but I’m also very interested to understand how their beliefs fit into the plan of salvation as described in the new testament.
As you have mentioned I hope that I have acted in a way that they are open to studying to another interpretation of the scriptures.
-DL
Wow, many opinions here about the existence of God the Mother.
I see comments like “Anyhow, I felt the Holy Spirit urging me to basically tell them to stop what they’re doing. I had my girlfriend praying for me at the time. “ and “But it was like the Holy Spirit told me “listen to her! She is not talking about Yahweh/Jehovah. Only the devil could say espouse such false idolatry and I realized this was a way of worshipping other gods. They use our Bible (theirs was the NIV) but they use it to talk about a totally different God than we do. Their trinity is not or Holy Trinity. Their christ is not our Jesus Christ of Nazareth, fully human, fully divine.
The Bible clearly testifies of God the Mother through the entire Bible. As prophesied, our Heavenly Mother has appeared in these last days and people all around the world are coming to our Heavenly Mother who is testified in the Bible.
Those who “claim” to be led by the Holy Spirit, speak blasphemy against our Heavenly Mother and the second coming Christ. People’s ignorance of God’s administration lead people to say such foolish things.
The savior’s name in the age of the Father was Jehovah. Anybody who called on another name other that Jehovah could not be saved. Then according to prophecy, a child was born, a son. As prophesied in Isaiah 9:6, this son was to be Mighty God, Everlasting Father. In other words, it was God coming as a son, in the flesh. This son’s name was Jesus. So the savior’s name changed from Jehovah to Jesus.
Do you think it was easy for the people to believe in a new name??. Obviously not. Why do you think it is written over and over in the New Testament, that you must believe in the name of Jesus? Jesus was a new name of the savior. Do you think the people who insisted in the name of Jehovah thought that they did NOT have salvation? They rejected the new name of the savior, Jesus and unfortunately could not receive salvation.
Now it is the same situation in this last age of the Holy Spirit. The second coming Jesus has come with the new name as prophesied in Revelation. People reject he new name of Christ, insisting “only through the name of Jesus”. The same mistake 2000 years ago is being repeated as we speak.
The Bible says……Hosea 4:6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.
“Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also reject you as my priests;
because you have ignored the law of your God,
I also will ignore your children.
We need to understand God’s administration. Not just pluck out certain verses from the Bible and build our doctrine on one line. It was not easy for people 2000 years ago to believe in the new name “Jesus”. So they preached, “Believe in the name of Jesus!”
Now Jesus has come a second time with a new name. Those who seek the truth in the Scriptures will come to understand who the second coming Christ is. It is not the Internet, the Encyclopedia, or history books that testify about the Christ. It is only the Bible.
John 5:39 — You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, 40yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
Stop seeking man’s opinion. Study the prophecies in the Bible. The new covenant has been restored by second coming Christ as prophesied. The last secret of the Bible, our Heavenly Mother has come at last to gather her children in this last age. Receive the water of life coming from the Spirit and the bride so you also can receive salvation in this last age. God bless you all.
Wow, this last post Oct 15, 2008 11:45 PM made about as much sense as when the people came to my door.
You say things such as:
“The Bible clearly testifies of God the Mother through the entire Bible. As prophesied, our Heavenly Mother has appeared in these last days and people all around the world are coming to our Heavenly Mother who is testified in the Bible.”
and quote scripture such as Hosea 4:6 to try and say that others aren’t studying their Bibles.
Yet you fail to provide even 1 scripture in your diatribe that supports the idea of God the Mother.
Lastly, you post about “The last secret of the Bible…”. What other secrets does the Bible reveal that you have insights on?
Your whole posts reeks of hypocrisy. Criticizing others for not searching the scriptures, yet not providing any scriptures to support you hypothesis.
If you have scriptures of support (more than 1 like you suggest) please provide them.
-DL
I just had an experience like this in Davis, CA. The EXACT same verses were presented to me in the EXACT same style (telling me to fill in the blanks, insulting my Biblical and literate intelligence). I asked him what denomination he was because this was the first time I have heard of God The Mother, and he said “non-denominational!” I couldn’t believe it because it had to have come from somewhere or some cult. So I searched online and found a lot of loose basis on Mormonism. I don’t understand how he was swayed so easily either. He said he used to be a simple Baptist, simply believing in Christ and rejecting all of this foolishness. What happened???
The conversation eventually led into a discussion about the necessity of taking physical Passover for salvation (washing feet, eating bread and drinking wine as if it was the body and blood of Christ) and rejecting Communion, saying that it was a big lie. Somehow, he turned the conversation back to God the Mother, and that all this belief in everything he told me was necessary for eternal life.
I kept bringing the focus back to Jesus Christ to see what he thinks of God the Son, and the biggest inconsistency was when he mixed the Trinity (Father, Son, Spirit) into one being. The Revelations verse that said “Spirit and bride” was interpretted as Jesus and God The Mother. The Spirit, according to him, also meant Holy Spirit. The bride also meant Jerusalem. The Spirit also meant God The Father, because He was married to God The Mother. So that one verse was talking about 5 different identities? What sense does that make?
Context must be taken into account when reading Bible verses! There were some verses I showed him about Salvation coming from belief in Jesus Christ (like John 5:24) and he kept adding more details on, saying that if I believed in Christ, I would obey Him and take physical Passover and accept God the Mother as well. Believing isn’t enough.
The cherry that he added to the end of our conversation was when he said that physical Baptism was also necessary for Salvation.
Please do not buy into these lies.
God Bless you all.
Sikstine
Hi James,
I had an encounter today, at a Barnes and Noble. Does anyone have a website for these beliefs or churches?
Gen 1:26-27 was the first verse they brought up. I said it tells us that Elohim is plural. That God exists in 3 persons. There were 2 girls and one did all the talking. She told me that “let us” means male and female. I said no it doesn’t. She pretended to know Hebrew and I called her out on it. I said the El is God and the ending is referring to the plural, not to a female.
She then went to Rev 22 about the Bride. I said it was Israel, it has nothing to do with a mother God. Then she turned to Gal 4 to talk about a Jerusalem woman. I told her that you have to take verses in context, not just pick and choose what you want.
I asked her about Trinity. She said it was same person. I asked her who Jesus was praying to when he said “Father in heaven”. She said he was thinking out loud.
I told her how do you get to heaven. She mumbled something about Passover. I asked her why did Jesus die? She said for forgivness of sins. She said Mother God is in Korea right now.
I really feel so bad for these people. They are in a cult and are not following God’s Word.
I repeatedly asked for verses in the Bible. She couldn’t show me any. My wife actually moved in to read her version clearer and the girl pulled away from her. It was very scary. Demonic.
I believe it is our responsibility to always give an answer of our faith. May God grant us wisdom and discernment.
By the way, I told her that the Apostle Paul mentioned false teachers would come and that she was in false teaching. She responded with “I don’t like Paul.” I said “you just quoted Gal 4 earlier and now you say you don’t like him?”
No Bible verses.
All human reasoning.
Very Satanic.
There is only one God who exists eternally in 3 persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
pastorkrec@optonline.com
Wow…it is kinda creepy. A women approached me in a department store, (I am in NJ)
so I googled “mother god” and I found you fine folk.
and my experience was verbatim to what these other stories say…….
I asked the women I was speaking with how she new this bible was “the word of god” she said, the mother god told her….but when I asked her how she new this women was “the mother god” she said the bible told her, that it was clear in the bible…I pointed out that this was circular reasoning. A chicken egg situation as it were.
Too funny.
She did act really brain washed…. But then again, aren’t all Christians? Something to think about.
All of you who hates the World Mission Society Church of God will regret it in Judgement day. You guys claim to follow God but you guys are not following what God says. You all continue to keep Sunday worship not Sabbath day, Communion instead of Passover bread and wine, Christmas as Jesus birthday. I pity you Church of God haters.
Matthew 15:6-9
6he is not to ‘honor his father[c]‘ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8″ ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 9They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.
Its pretty sad that some of these people leaving comments only use their own opinion in understanding the Bible, rather than letting the Scriptures interpret itself.
One previous post wrote that “Let us make man in our image” does not refer to God being male and female.
And who’s opinion is this? Yes it his own opinion, but unfortunately his own opinion does not lead you to salvation. If you simply let the Bible interpret itself, without adding you own opinion, then it is quite obvious that God has a male and female image, hence, “Let us make man in our image”
Another one said that it is God existing as three persons. And where does it say in the Bible, that God exists as three person? Again, adding to the Bible, while not allow you to know the truth. People easily insist on their own opinion without even carefully thinking about what they are saying. They usually just regurgitate what their pastor taught them.
It is also this arrogance that leads people to reject the truth that is so clearly in the Bible. I run into people like these people here on this forum all the time. Because of arrogance or pride, they cannot accept the truth. They cannot take, being taught something in the Bible. They know everything and couldn’t possibly of missed something like God the Mother. What arrogant thinking. This is why God’s people are humble. Just think if the early disciples of Jesus Christ had this mentality. They would never be able to accept this new teaching that some 30 year old carpenter from Nazareth, was God in the flesh.
I feel sorry for these people as their words are going to condemn that at the judgment. Of course, they still have time to repent, and that is what I pray for.
hi all,
i am familiar with these guys promoting the “world mission society church of god” thing (terrible name to begin with).
Here is some info available, although there are a lot of other resources available on the internet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Mission_Society_Church_of_God
The first line says a lot really:”The World Mission Society Church of God (in Korean, 하나님의교회 세계복음선교협회) was founded by Ahn Sang-hong in 1964″. Incredible isn’t it? The world lived in darkness until this genius came up with this fairy tale about 50 years ago.
Although I do respect religion beliefs based on the fact that everyone is free to believe in whatever they want, this whole made up story is simply ridiculous, and a terrible Hollywood movie script is probably more believable and it makes a lot more sense.
They promote their ideas based on 5% of the bible – lines that they choose to fit their story. If one has enough time, I think it would not be extremely difficult to form at least another 10 cults like this one, with 10 other different stories.
I would not interfere because of my respect for the different religions in general. However, what these guys are doing is harassing people on the street which is not ok. How would they like it if some other person – christian, catholic, jewish, whatever, would come to them to preach about some “recent discovery”…
In any case, I feel bad for all those who get trapped into these stories because it ruins their lives. It’s sad really…
Hey everyone,
Im from kearny, nj
This happend to me this past weekend. The difference was that a very good friend of mine was the one who came to me. For years i had preached for this boy and he never accepted. Finally one day he came to me wanting to go to my church, well he went and loved it. He accepted Jesus, cried alot, was touched by the holy spirit. Then the next day he tells me that one friend from school called him to go to a bible study. He goes and tells me it was great. After a couple of weeks i ask him how he is and he said he was great and that he was in that church and he was studying the bible alot. I thought, “great, its a blessing to know he’s in church, im very happy.”
Well, its been about 3 months and he calls me on a saturday nite at 12 am askin to show me somethin on the bible. I was very happy to know he wanted to discuss the bible so i waited for him. He came over my house all dressed up saying he was coming from church and made the big question, “Have you ever heard of mother god?”
From there on it was the same speech as many of you have stated here. I’ve been a christian for about 10 years now so i know the bible enough to not believe any of it. I tried throwing in some other verses to go against wat he said but he wouldnt accept and would just reapeat and keep going
I’m very sad to knownow, after searching, wat this “church” is. I knowi have failed as a christian to give better arguments to him, but God knows what he does. I just pray that, him and all these people who are being blinded by false doctrine, will be touched by the spirit and get to know the true God. What i think everyone should do is keep praying and ask god to touch their hearts and reveal his true purposes to each one of them.
It’s very sad to see ppl like my friend, who are just open to receive anythin, receive the false teachings. Hope god can bless you all and never stop praying for them…Amen
Icaro…
Thanks everyone for contributing to the discussion.
Icaro, your experience has been the most personal and painful. Sorry, but thanks for sharing. Praise God that you know His Word and are steadfast in faith. Let your friend know that we will not judge him should he again seek the Truth when the lies fail him.
Hi everyone,
This happened to me too. I’ve been trying to battle these demons ever since they took some family members of mine captive and in prison with these lies. If you want to contribute in releasing some truth to these people directly try visiting this forum which I’ve jst recently joined: http://www.ahnsahnghong.biz/forum/index.php
God bless everyone here. Hold fast the Word of God and by the Blood of Jesus Christ, Satan will fail!
The above website was taken down by the WMSCOG. They will not succeed in silencing the critics of this organization. Please visit http://www.examiningthewmscog.com for more info and contribute to the forum.
i actually went to their church couple of times in rigdewood NJ and they are kinda weird. They say they found the 10 commandments that broke from Moses and they also say that Jesus already came for the second time…with another name. Also they don’t celebrate birthdays and they wear black clothes while having their service. they also think that the bible contradicts itself that’s why they believe in certain parts of it. Finally when i stopped going to that church and start the searching of God in a Pentecostal Church and everything make sense ! thanks God. when i left they told me that they would pray so God would forgive for such a terrible sin.
So many claims have been made against the World Mission Society Church of God, because this organization believes that Christ Ahnsahnghong is the Second Coming Christ, and that Mother Jerusalem is the female image of God. These are facts that can be proven through the Bible.
Today is so easy to believe in the name of Jesus Christ, because is easily found in the New Testament, but most Christians today, the only thing they know about Jesus is the name.
In order to let brothers, sisters, the people who are interested, and the people who slander; understand more about this, I’ll take the initiative to make it clear for all. We will go back to the time of the disciples 2000 years ago, when the NEW TESTAMENT DIDN’T EXISTED. The name Jesus is nowhere to be found in the Old Testament, and the only savior that you know is named Jehovah God. let us see why:
1. Deuteronomy 4:35
You were shown these things so that you might know that the Jehovah is God; besides him there is no other.
2. Deuteronomy 4:39
Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the Jehovah is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.
3. Isaiah 44:8
Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”
4. Isaiah 45:22
“Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
5. Isaiah 46:9
Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me.
6. Hosea 13:4
“But I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no God but me, no Savior except me.
Now a Jewish carpenter around the age of 30 comes and claims that he is that same Jehovah God(John 10:30). He is single his whole life, he hangs around prostitutes, tax-collectors, fisher men, crippled, he rides around in a donkey, he fixed your door one year ago, you saw him grow, your children played with him, he lived in your town, you know his parents. Would you really believe he is your Messiah, God in the flesh????
Today it sounds ridiculous to think that he is not the Christ, but how about 2000 years ago. The problem is that there are people who fail to understand the prophecies of the Bible. Christ Ahnsahnghong fulfilled all the prophecies of the Second Coming of Christ and Mother Jerusalem is prophecied to come down to Earth in these last days to gather the children promised like Isaac as prophecied in the Bible.
Currently living in Cambridge, MA, and two young-ish women stopped me on the street, asking if they could talk to me about God. I am a Methodist Christian, and didn’t mind taking a couple minutes.
But when they started talking about a “Mother God” and whipped out a Bible to show me passages, I became a little suspicious. It seemed to me that they were taking scriptures out of context. When I would ask a question or bring up a counterpoint, they would just flip to another scripture and continue extrapolating.
I told the woman that I thought when God says “made in our image” in Genesis that He was referring to Himself in the context of the Trinity: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. She just continued on, pointing out that God created man in His image, male and female. But when I told her that I thought the soul was not male or female and that the internal image of God was not male or female, she again flipped to another passage, tenuously making an argument about the new Jerusalem as the bride of Christ and thus somehow also God.
The card the main woman gave me only had her email, no website or church affiliation. I can’t find them on the internet at all, making this sound like a somewhat underground movement, much like people have described here.
Yo yo. Richie from dublin ireland here. Just had two of these people call to my house. We had a good chat for a about two hours. Standard sect stuff, kept coming back to there main points.
Did find there question about if Jesus is the lamb and we are the bride then who are the guests?
Also the last bit of revelations seems to indicate that both the spirit and the bride say come..?
I find its best with these groups to take them as they are and let them evangelise you as much as they can. If they have a good point or have a question you cant answer tell them “thats a good point” or “thats a good question and i dont know the answer” I find that this helps to treat them with respect as we should and opens us up to humility which we should be, for if we are willing to admit our lack of knowlegde we will learn stuff. the bottom line is ive come to faith over ten years ago. My friends my family and my self have put much thought in to what i believe. Ive experience much love over the years from my fellow christians and i thank God for this. It will take a lot for someone to convince me that alot of what ive learnt from these people and be myself is wrong. But the least i can do is let them try:)
ps i also came here cause of google.
PPs i prayed with them afterwards. i recon this is a good thing to do.
Christ Ahnsahnghong teach us to learn from the past Part 1
Christ Ahnsahnghong testified that everything written in the Bible is a copy and shadow of the things to come. By looking into a shadow, we come to know the things of the present or of the future. As it is written:
Romans 15:4 “For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.”
Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 “What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one can say, “Look! This is something new”? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time.”
Isaiah 46:10 “I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.”
Hebrews 10:1 “The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves….”
Hebrews 8:5 “They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven….”
Christ Ahnsahnghong tells us that what has already been is not just the past. The past history is a prophecy, which is fulfiled repeatedly, once, twice, and even three times. The natural Isrealites’ history shows us what will take place in the gospel age of the New Testament. For example, during the Apostolic Age of the New Testament, the truth was perfect. However, after all the apostles died, the truths began to be changed, around A.D. 100, the advocacy of Sunday service appeared. The Apostle Paul prophesied:
2 Thessalonians 2:3-7 “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.”
Such secrets acts of lawlessness began to increase from the end of the Apostolic Age and became gradually prevalent; Constantine the Roman Emperor converted to Christianity and was given authority to reign over the churches, and in A.D. 321 he proclaimed Sunday as the day of worship, and even the Passover began to be neglected from A.D. 150 and was completely abolished in A.D. 325. The Eastern Church centering on Jerusalem was constant in keeping the Sabbath and the Passover. On the other hand, the Western Church centering on Rome began to commit lawlessness from A.D. 130; it abolished not only the Sabbath but also the Passover and even kept it on Sunday.
It held the Council of Nicaea in A.D. 325 to abolish the Passover which has been kept by the Eastern Church. For two months from May to June, there were heated debates over the Passover, but finally it was abolished by the authority of Constantine the Roman Emperor.
The above comment is a perfect example of historical revisionism. Constantine did not command Sunday worship. Read more here:
http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/did-constantine-abolish-the-sabbath/
Christ Ahnsahnghong teach us to learn from the past Part 2
From that time, the Dark Ages began; whoever kept the Passover was regarded as a heretic and was given a trial by the Inquisition and even put to death. Those who loves and obeyed the truth worshiped at their houses in secret, and many of them were detected and handed over to the Inquisition. They moved about to keep their faith and became hut-dwellers to worship.
Afterwards they fled to the desert, but even there they were not safe, and many of them lived a secluded live in small, solitary houses or in caves, leading an ascetic life. Even though they were hated and regarded as being nameless by the world, the crown of life in heaven is shining on them. The Dark Ages is over: the period of 1260 years has passed away fleetingly. Those who rejected the truth to get a physical victory during the Dark Ages are now confined in prison, while the saints who laid down their lives for the truth are being appreciated for their troubles and given admiring cheers in heaven (Revelation 6:9-11). Their troubles are really praiseworthy. They have become the true witnesses to those who have received the truth of the new covenant.
How about now, as it is written in the Bible without keeping the Feast of God we cannot receive the promise and the blessing of eternal life. Do you think that God has destine the whole world to be condemed?Of course not, God already planned our salvation and who will save us in the last day:
Hebrews 9:28 “So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.”
Christ Ahnsahnhong came as prophesied to open the way for us to receive salvation through the Passover. Christ Ahnsahnghong came in 1948 according to the prophecy of the Fig Tree with the re-birth of Israel and began to preach about the New Covenant Passover. Christ Ahnsahnghong opened the way for us to eat from the Tree of Life by revealing to us the existence of Heavenly Mother God who is the source of eternal life. Christ Ahnsahnghong re-established Zion so that we can now keep the 7 Feast of God testified in the Bible. Christ Ahnsahnghong is the truth, the way, and the life, and no one can enter heaven without realizing His great love and sacrifice. Christ Ahnsahnghong is truly our Lord, Second Coming Christ. Ahnsahnghong is our Almighty God.
All praises and glory be to our Heavenly Father Christ Ahnsahnghong for bringing us Salvation!!!!
I found more information here:
http://www.ahnsahnghong.biz/forum
You are all so very blessed. My heart was moved to see all of the people from all around the world who found this blog and who shared in similiar occurance. As it is written, how beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news! Glory to God who searches the hearts of men (human beings). Thanks be forever to God Elohim who has opened the way to the tree of life through the prophetical last Adam, a life giving spirit (Only God can give us eternal life). I hope you will all share in the joy of life given by Christ Ahnsahnghong and Mother. The best of all of this is that you can share in Gods' love by saying Come! Come, and recieve the Spirit and the Bride our saviors in this last age!
Hi, i just had exactly the same experience this morning, and i'm far, far away in Singapore. This Korean lady approached after i finished my service in a catholic church. At first she just asked me to fill a questionaire which mentions something about Mother of God (it asked whether i have heard of it, i answered "no"), then she started rambling about it and cited exactly the same verses as you mentioned. She said they're from World Mission Society Church of God and they're all over the world. I have a brochure of it. She even offered me to join their bible study (a bit forcefully to be honest) and i wasn't very sure so i decided to Google it (and yes, came across this blog). Apparently they believe in a "second Jesus" and the "God of Mother" who lived in Korea? Well, i wouldn't condemn their belief as long as they believe in doing good, but after doing my research i think i'll stick to mine. I see some comments arguing about who to believe in if you want to have salvation, but hey, the most important thing is to "love your neighbours as you love yourselves" and try to do as much good as you can. I think that's what really matters cos that's what makes the world a better place. Anyway, just want to share my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours.
Peace
Hello James,
Thanks for opening this website with the blog. One of my friend had the similar experience in Chicago,IL. This cult has been proclaimed through the world. The deceiving nature of satan as in the form of "Mother god" proclaimed against the christians and our true Living God.
In Mt 7:15 it clearly says “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. Mt 7:16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?. We will continue to pray for all the youngsters who are involved in this proclaimation of mother god, let God can prepare a pure heart and they should not deceived and to repent to the God and they should understand that they can get the salvation only through Jesus Christ, Who died for our sins as per Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Thnaks
John Jeevanandam
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Beware of the lies of anti-Church of God websites!
“lies” huh? Just like cults to automatically disregard everything on the net as lies. That’s convenient. But when you take a serious look at the facts about this organization that claims to be doing God’s work, it is abundantly clear that they are not who they say they are.
http://www.examiningthewmscog.com
same experience here today in the garden state plaza mall in new jersey.
my wife and i were approached by two women asking us if we read the bible and if we have ever heard of mother-god.
not two minutes later the manager of the hallmark store we were in chased them away. i was told by the clerk that they prey on people all day long.
it was an interesting experience. i hope this brings them peace and joy. i have very strong faith and read the bible daily. im not sure what their purpose is but i hope it is to spread peace, light and love.
best to you all!
Their purpose is to ruin your life and take all of your money. Lucky for you, you didn’t listen to them. They probably would have ruined your marriage.
It's so funny i've read most of these blogs and i have yet to see anyone mention:
Rev21:9 come, i will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb. and he carried me away in the spirit to a mountain great and high and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of Heaven from God. It shone with the Glory of God.
So who is this Holy city the "New Jerusalem" that is coming down out of Heaven.
"Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free and she is our Mother."
I mean unless someone has written that and your just not posting it. What are you trying to hide?
God Bless You ')
Verses taken completely out of context.
http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/mother-in-the-bible-country-or-korean-lady-galatians-426/
Yeh, I used to belong to this church. Pretty crazy the way they proof text and twist scripture to their advantage. I got out of there when I realized it was a cult.
Praise God Melodie! If you are willing, please submit your story to:
http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/contact/
Well done Melodie! Thanks for posting.
Were you a Christian before getting involved and are you still?
What caused you to see that it was a cult? What were some of your experiences?
Are you with a new church?
Great news that you saw through it and had the guts to get out.
God Bless!
Deception was prophesied by Jesus and we see the fulfillment in the Mother God doctrine. When they quote the scripture to you , you must ask them to read the whole context (the verses before and after) . You will find the futility in their quotation, verses are quoted out of context by them. for eg. if you read in Rev 22.17 -19 about who is saying ‘ drink the waters of life freely’ .you will have to read the verse 22.16 ‘ I Jesus have sent mine….’ so you see that it is actually Jesus who is saying the words …..drink the waters…. In fact the bride only says ‘ come ‘ (to 'Jesus' – refers to the second coming) along with the Spirit…(Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. ) . One has to be thoroughly deceived to think that Bride is the Mother – God.
The above poster said that it is Jesus that is saying….come to the waters. Oh really? Lets see what the verse says..
Rev. 22:17 – The Spirit and the bride SAY 'Come'….
They are saying "come" to receive the water of life. They have the water of life, that is why they are saying "come".
Do you see the deception of the above poster. Deception is necessary to deny the Heavenly Mother.
The bride is the Holy City Jerusalem that is coming down from heaven in the last days. (Rev. 21:9-10)
The heavenly Jerusalem above is our Mother. (Galatians 4:26)
How can you NOT see that the bride is our heavenly Mother? Maybe she is not your mother. Children of God have a Father and a Mother. Is there any such physical child that has only a father?
The woman you believe to be “god” divorced her husband to be with Ahnsahnghong. That makes her an adulterer according to Mark 5:32. A sinner can not be God!!! Snap out of it already.
I just had the same situation as everyone else is mentioning happen to me in Pasadena City College in California. I have been a Christian for 16 years and thought that this was just a two nice girls there to talk about God and so I was very receptive to them when they said they were seminary students and that it would only take a minute. Then she talked for 20 minutes about how there had to be a mother god. I kept asking them so who is mother god, but she wouldn't say and then she started talking about the sabbath without really giving me a conclusive argument about the mother god. I could see that she could go on forever misreading the bible and I had to go leave.
I am so glad that God allowed me to see through her lies and as I left I prayed for her and the other students who may be swayed by her. God is good!
Hello.
I just now had an encounter with a woman who came to my door wanting to talk. I gave her my ear, curious as to what she had to tell me. She went into all the same things that were mentioned previously. I told her I'm a believer, so she didn't need to tell me these things. She implied what I knew as the Truth was not the real truth.
She said she was from the church of God. Where? In Miami, she said. A house church she added. Interesting…. this added to my weird feelings more. I told her I have never heard about this mother god & frankly didn't need to hear more & asked her politely to leave. Overall just a weird experience.
When you come to the Church of God World Mission Society you will notice that this is the only church which tells about the spiritual Mother God, the New Jerusalem and about the name of the Holy Spirit, Christ AhnSahngHong. I am not saying this because they say it with their own words, but because the Bible testify that Ahnsahnghong is Second Coming Christ, and that the Heavenly Jerusalem is our Mother. I firmly believe that Christ AhnSahngHong and Heavenly Mother are the beginning and the end, Their are the last and true savior.
Elohim is the creator of the heavens and the earth, who created the whole universe and billions of starts. How is it possible that we who are limited by time and space can denie God's great power. The Bible clearly describe about how and when God will appear in this world for our own salvation. It is written that Elohim will appear in Their own time.
1 Timothy 6:15 "Which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."
In the time of the old testament you can find many references of God coming in the flesh, He appeared to Abraham, and many others great prophets of the old testament. 2000 yrs ago, God decided to come down from heaven to this world in the body with the name of Jesus. How about now? 2000 yrs later, don't think that God can come again? God is Almighty, we are less than a speck of dust, who are we to deny the coming of God. If we truly want to receive salvation, we must believe in the words of the Bible which testify about Elohim who will save us in the last days.
Revelation 22:17 "The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life."
For our salvation Elohim appeared as the Holy Spirit and the Bride to give us the water of life in the last days. In 1 Timothy, it is written that God alone is immortal and lives in unapproachable light (1 Tim. 6:16). Thus, only the Spirit and the Bride the Second Coming Christ, Ahnsahnghong, and the New Jerusalem Mother are immortal and only They have life. Nevertheless, some people boast that they, also, have the power to give life. They say the bride in Rev 22:17 represents churches. But such assumptions are a great mistake. The Bible says that no one can have life until he or she eats the flesh of the Son of Man and drinks His blood
John 6:53 "Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him."
Who are the death? Those who have not receive the blood and body of Christ, even Jesus said: "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead" (Matt. 8:22). Mere human beings, such as ourselves, cannot say that we are alive. There is no life in us, so we must go to God Christ Ahnsahnghong and Mother if we want to receive eternal life and salvation in the last days. Christ Ahnsahnghong and Mother are the only ones who have life. In order to give the everlasting water of life to mortal beings, God came down to this earth in this last age as the Holy Spirit, Ahnsahnghong, and the Bride, the New Jerusalem Mother. People who pervert or deny this Biblical teaching will never be able to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Galatians 4:26 But the JERUSALEM that is above is free, and she is OUR MOTHER.
Another example of how the WMSCOG misinterprets the Bible.
http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/elohim-one-god-or-two/http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/elohim-one-god-or-two/
Hey James!
Currently I've had many encounters with these folks @ the community college i attend, and fortunately I have a friend who used to be part of this "church." There tactics are the same all through out ("can you read this for me") @ one point i asked them to read Exodus 20:3 – "You shall have no other gods before me." and they did but noticed i was mocking their tactics. They then jumped around to the sabbath, and finally mother god never fully addressing one of their points. I've actually attended one of their "bible studies" and the majority of the time they tried to pitch me the idea that the Pope was the anti-christ. Anywho, it gets weirder… My good friend told me that they believe whistling invokes demonic activity and that this alledged mother god lives in korea and parts the clouds for people and performs all sorts of "miracles." another firm belief of theirs is that they WILL NOT attend a bible study/church that is not affiliated with theirs because "its the same as cheating (like infidelity)" When i see them pitching this idea i want to ask them how they feel about leading people astray. These experiences have really motivated me to become grounded with scriptures because if we're not grounded we'll be easily deceived.
thanks for this blog, its nice to read other people's experiences.
God Bless!
Funny that you mentioned that about the Catholic church. They sing Catholic and Protestant songs though lol. So ridiculous.
http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/its-official-the-wmscog-sings-catholic-songs/
My son is in this cult. I've researched and read every blog and account I can as well as reading Cultwatch. They all have the same scripted approach to recruiting, and it is so very obvious. It is a dangerous thing they have going because they don't appeal to logic, but appeal more to people's emotional state and feed on their fears of losing out on Salvation. And some of these people really actually believe what they are saying is the truth, which really makes them all the more passionate about this absolute nonsense. Unfortunately, the same thing happens in all cases. The members are eventually encouraged to cut ties with "non-believers" such as their own family, and empty their pocket books to the "church" because they believe the end of the world is coming in 2012, so why keep your wordly goods? My son is convinced that the world is ending soon, even says "Destruction is Near" in his sleep, according to his wife. My son was into giving the "Church" around $600-$800 per month, plus giving at all three services on SAturdays, and also on Tuesdays, since he is required to be there all that time. He is probably going to lose his job because they have him preaching at work to co-workers now, and going out door to door to preach any time he can. But he thinks it doesn't matter because the world is going to end, and he has to save all the people he can right now. It is just outrageous. He's not a better person for this, which was his goal to be, he is simply angry, upset all the time, an emotional mess, and the people at his "church" don't care one bit about the extreme stress he is under as they have him out frantically exhausting himself doing door to door recruiting, going to church at the very least 20 hours per week, while he also tries to hold down a demanding full time job. I am very worried about him and his mental state. The worst thing of all is that he is worshipping false idols. That is what they have him doing, and it breaks my heart.
Re: My son is in this cult.
I'm sorry, I can only imagine what you're going through, and it still hurts my heart to hear. I will gladly pray for your son, hopefully that zeal will someday enable him to serve the True God.
Maybe their belief that the world will end in 2012 will serve for good and cause many to leave when the world doesn't end. Make sure he can come to you when doubt arises, and don't let him push you out of contact.
Pray for him, it is an incredibly powerful action.
Hi James
This is Erika from Church of God in Boston. This is the Church who approched you. If you think about this earth and its creatures were not every one of them made by father and mother? Also did not God make it this way? We can clearly show that there is a God the Mother shown throught the Bible. Even thinking about
Rev. 22:17 "The Spirit & the bride say 'Come!'. And let him who hears say 'Come!', whoever is thirsty let him come and whoever wishes let him take the free gift of the water of life.", this verse we can analyse: What is this "water of life"?
John 4:13-14 "Jesus answered 'Whoever drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks from the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.'" so we can see the water being given is eternal life. Then who is the only one who can give us eternal life?
John 5:39-40 "You diligently study the scriptures because you think that through them you possess eternal life. These are the scriptures that testify about me yet you refuse to come to me to have life." then we see Jesus gives eternal life but how and when?
Jonh 6:53-54 "Jesus said to them unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." then what is being said here? Jesus will give eternal life to people by his flesh and blood, but waiting until what day to raise them up? The Last Day, I am sure you know that Revelations written by apostle John was about what would happen in the last day(s). Now if we know that the Spirit is apart of the Holy Trinity mustn't we find out who this bride is so we can recieve eternal life?
Rev. 21:9". . . 'Come I will show you the bride the wife of the Lamb.' Then he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high and showed me the holy city Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God." So who is the "Lamb" in the bible
1Cor. 5:7 " Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without any yeast as you really are. For Christ our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed." now we know Christ is that Lamb but did he ever have a bride 2000 yrs ago? No.
Then, who is this bride?
Gal. 4:26 "But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother." but wait before that it talks about the two covenants and how 1 is in slavery and the other is free but which is the Mother of Gods peole?
Gal. 4:28 "Now you brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit."
Gods people will be the ones given the inheritnce by the free women(Gen.21:10), who in the New Testiment is New Jerusalem
Now if Christ is not an actual Lamb we can see that this Holy City Jerusalem is not a city but God herself and this Lamb is actually second coming Christ. . .
Heb. 9:28 "so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."
Now this is what we believe. Only God can give eternal life for if a building or a person could do it we wouldn't need God. So there is a God the Father and God the Mother in the last days
Rev. 21:2-3 "I saw the Holy City Jerusalem coming down out of heavenfrom God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husbad. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying 'Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them."
God Bless You James, I hope that soon you will come as prophecied by the apostle John and realise the true boundless love of Father and Mother who sacrifice everyting so that we can have a chance to go to heaven.
These folks have been spotted around Perth eh?
Interesting.
I had not heard of this cult before. But I can see why it originated in Korea.
That place is a hotbed for cult leaders.
As a Newbie, I am always searching online for articles that can help me. Thank you
James,
Don't know you but I came across this because a friend of mine who goes to a different church came across one of these people at a mall outside of DC last night. Sadly a young man named Ivan was being led around as if on a leash by an old woman who probably had cruel men in her past.
My friend went looking for them, this time more prepared than before.
One thing he was going to ask was what sort of fathers these people had.
This may seem odd but you see my father left my family when I was 5. My wife's father abused her especially but also her entire family horribly. My wife and I have many problems brought to us by our earthly fathers.
Today there is a major crisis as men fail to be the protectors of women as Christ loved the church.
So what you can find clearly with these cult leaders and followers from WMCGI is that they have been hurt by men so they seek a world where men are made insignificant and cannot hurt them anymore.
I myself murdered my child through abortion and hurt the woman I loved greatly through it but by the grace of my Heavenly Father, my family has been spared from this most common of Generational Sin, hatred of men and abdication of mail Covenantal Headship.
You Heavenly Mother people must repent. God will not be mocked. You will reap what you sow. The only healing for you is if you stop hating God the Father by proclaiming lies. Until you trust God the Father, you will have no rest and I pray that He will frustrate all of your evil efforts, for you own good.
Have a look here for Biblical truth on these issues:
http://baylyblog.com
I exhort those of you who are in Christ, my spiritual brothers and sisters, to harshly rebuke these cultists who are spreading lies about Christianity.
We would all do well to study our bibles and know the history of Christianity. This cult began in the mid 1900s – it has not stood like the true churches which subscribe to any of the various standards like the Nicene Creed, Westminster Confession etc.
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I have a close friend who has fallen pray to this belief system…
Romans 6:8-11 – Now if we have died with christ we believe that we shall also live with him. Knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is NEVER TO DIE AGAIN, DEATH NO LONGER IS MASTER OVER HIM.
ACTS 4:12 -And there is salvation in NO ONE ELSE, FOR THERE IS NO OTHER NAME under heaven that has been given among MEN by which we must be SAVED.
GALATIONS 2: 20 – I have been crusifed with christ and it is no longer I who live but christ lives in me, and the life which i now live in the flesh i live by FAITH in the son of god who loved me and gave himself up for me. I DO NOT NULLIFY THE GRACE OF GOD FOR IF RIGHTIOUSNESS COMES THROUGH THE LAW THEN CHRIST DIED NEEDLESSLY.
Implication of these verses: This MAN that they worship died in the 80's …the bible tells us that christ is never to die again.. if this guy is the second coming and is essentually christ then why is he DEAD? It seems like the doctrine didn't play out and when he died they had to preach about the mother god becuase his successor happens to be a woman.
Acts clearly states that there is NO OTHER NAME BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED… It can't be anymore clear… it's plain as day… every knee shall bow and every toung confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD.
Last, they believe salvation comes through observace of passover and the saturday sabbath … my reponse to this is simple If I can loose my salvation or gain salvation through observance of a holiday then what do I need christ for? Galations is clear… if we nullify grace christ died needlessly.
The two main proofs of apostate teaching is that they prevert grace and they deny christ..
Both these things this church is doing.. pray for them ..they need a savior which is a free gift from god not by works so that no man can boast! This is the good news of christ!
Thanks to all who have posted here. I just had this same experience yesterday (except there were 3 Koreans) in Columbus Ohio. They came to my door and seemed happy when I told them I believed in the bible. I can't believe I had never heard of mother god before. In my case , whenever I asked her questions she acted like her English wasn't very good.
At the end I felt that I needed to warn them that what they were doing was very dangerous. I believe that being thrown in the sea with a weight around your neck is a better fate than leading people astray. I also told her that any time anyone claims to possess "secret knowledge" and proclaim a different gospel (other than Jesus death reconciling us to God) should in Paul's word's be eternally condemned . It made me think of the Gnostics in Paul's time. I get scared for these people because they will have to answer to the living God.
I almost didn't post because it seems repetitive, but I felt like our encounter was spiritually tense, and straight from the evil one. I'm glad to know I am not alone in this spiritual battle.
I am from NJ there church is in Bogota NJ Same thing happen to me i was in Pathmark to ladys came up to me said the smae thing.I gave them my number an I told them I cant go to there church four months later they where still calling me!So I said fine I will go to there church just to see what they where all about.The people there where all so happy and smiling it kinda just seemed so fack and almost scary.They where going on about mother god etc..it was almost like a cult this happen in Bogota Nj
Wow I was a Christian my boy friend a Rastafari he met an old freiend who had been going to this church of god, but my boy friend saw such a change in him he listened to him and went to his chruch, his friend was gangster before now in suit shirt and tie his lost his wife and baby girls for following this belief so SAD!
Well anyway my byfriend was going crazy about what he was learning at this church that he shaved his head he had dread locks got into a shirt and tie got baptised into this belief and ask me to just come to a couple of studies THEY DO USE THE NIV if a korean talks to you with bad english they will use korean version NIV, anyway I was sucked in for awhile mainly because I loved my boyfriend an wanted to be equally yoked spiritualy. The men sit on one side of the church the women on the other side the women have to wear a veil on their head, at the church we are all brothers and sisters so dont exspect to see any love between husbands and wive or boyfriends and girlfriends they act like they dont know each other, oh I could share so much!!! I am now out of the church for 2 years Praise God but my boy friend is so brain washed, he wont leave or leave me alone He keeps preaching the same stuff Ive heard so many time they use the same verses over and over again. They go to malls college campuses and the stronger ones will go door to door Please it all sounds good and the way they teach you end up believing, the bible says dont leave what you first believed which I did but God says I will never leave you or forsake you and He kept drawing me to Himself I fought this chruch with thousands of questions WOW they dont like you to question them they even started a Q&A classes but they wouldnt answer anything that was on your lack of belife they would answer questions of those who believed but just wasnt very clear on somthing!! Sorry if spelling is bad I tried to rush I have to get to work. But email me at Died4MeN4U@aol.com I will even talk to you by phone I have unlimited minutes and will call you with any questions if your in this cult an want out or want to join! Jesus is Lord!!!!!Sherri
Sherri,
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Wow, I was at Wal-Mart and had almost the same conversation with two women about "Mother GOD". The devil is busy, one degree off and he will abuse your mind and have you extremely off course. Stay focused and be Blessed.
The exact same thing happened to me at Pasadena city college, in CA. I googled mother god, and this blog came up. after reading all the comments on the blog, and doing some research on this church, my biggest fear is that there could be a repetition of Jonestown…
Hello James.
Today I had a similar encounter at a Barnes and Nobles in Chicago, IL. Two young girls came up to me and started asking me if I was interested in attending their Bible Study.
As a Christian who was formerly a leader of Campus Crusade for Christ on my campus, I was eager to hear about their study and was going to encourage them when they started asking me if I knew about this "mother god".
The same verses were cited from Genesis through Revelation. Although I asked if they meant that if I didn't believe in this Mother God I wouldn't be saved- they would skirt around the question and point me back to verses that were out of context.
I so wished that I had my Bible on me at that moment, because I really wanted to see their context at the time. I definitely felt the Lord leading me away from these people. Although the girl seemed really sweet, her manner and words were too memorized and too scripted. I wished I had known about the existence of this belief earlier so that I may have been able to bring up some more ample points.
Although I did bring up the trinity and Christ and the fact that the BRIDE is usually referred to as God's church. She would skirt by these arguments and point back to this brochure she was going off of. She tried to tell me that this wasn't a matter of a specific church but that it was a matter of the truth. When I asked her which church she was from she said "Church of God: Nondenominational" and tried to get my phone number so she could text me about when their meetings were. I declined, but was quite shaken up from the event. I asked for a copy of her brochure, but she said that she only carried one with her.
It really made me feel uncomfortable because I was coming up against a doctrine that I had no previous knowledge of.
I feel like these instances only go to show that we always need to be prepared to give an answer for our faith. We need to be studying God's word constantly and praying that others do not get sucked into this blasphemous belief. It is a blessing to know that so many have posted and are also concerned and praying. God's church really is universal and is still moving.
Blessings
-Tiffany T.
I was approached by two members of this organization in India. They kept repeating 3-4 verses without getting to the point, while constantly saying that "Its all in the bible." I would exhort every Christian to understand that their soul is just as precious to God as ours. While their arguments just fall through when taken in the context of the entire scripture, convincing them is something that can be done only by the Holy Spirit. Pray that the truth may shine through and set them free from the bondage of the lie that they have come to believe. Treat them with gentleness and respect just as we expect to be treated when we approach people with the gospel of Jesus. Any one who holds on to such doctrines is one who has never got to know the love of God in sending Jesus Christ who is the fulfilment of the ages. Mankind's quest for meaning/purpose and salvation are met only in the person of Jesus. I pray that God's Spirit touches their hearts to know the mighty power in the name of Jesus and salvation that comes through Him.
8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them: "Rulers and elders of the people! 9If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, 10then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11He is "'the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone.' 12Salvation is found in noone else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
Unfortunately my brother got sucked into this religion and he recently just came back from Korea. After asking my parents & I a numerous amount of times to attend a Bible study at his church we finally decided to go. I had the same experience as stated from many of you above.. These people are very pushy, They dont answer your questions fully and only use verses from the Bible but take it way out of context. Its actually really scary and i feel helpless because I honestly dont know how to speak to my brother anymore. Does anyone know of support groups that can probably help him?? Or how can we help these people who are so brainwashed?
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I just got re baptsted through them yesterday. After wards they were telling me that God the Mother was a real women and lived in Korea. Realllllllly!!!!!! Ok seems like a cult to me and now how do I get them off my back. I said Id call the girl around 11am the next day and 10:30 she kept calling. She knows I dont sleep much since I have a 2 month old. Wanted to baptise him without my husband there.He wants him done but wants to be there. So now I have the problem of trying to get out of this withour being really nasty and saying get lost. Church is 45mins fr my house too far to drive anytime of the year and if they wouldnt let me talk to my pastor 1st then something fishy is going on.
I was also pressured to be baptized the first day that I went to study with them. You are right, they don’t tell you about Ahnsahnghong or Zhanggiljah until after. I think it’s because they want to wait until you’ve made some sort of commitment to them. Deceptive.
Had a run in at the mall today in Richmond, VA. The girl used the same verse about the spirit and bride and talked about genesis man and woman created in image of God. She was with an accomplice and they cornered me by a wall to prevent me from getting away. I did not want to be rude so I listened to her. I was trying to be polite and she asked me for my phone number and I said no, she asked me to go to her church and I said no, then she asked for my email and I told her no. She was very pushy! The guy with her did not speak english (she said he only spoke korean). I felt sorry for the girl because she seemed very bright but she doesn't realize she has joined a cult!
Hi all,
I haven't read all the comments, but I've bookmarked this blog to come back to. I had them visit me today and I live in Sydney, Australia. All the verses you have mentioned were pulled out. The first one was the Revelation one: "The Spirit and the bride say 'come'!" and they didn't get me past that. How does the word 'say' interpret to offerer or giver of eternal life. I'm suh a pushover person and the meeting left me quite rattled – especially since I invited them into my house to talk. I feel very encouraged from reading your posts about how so many of you strongly felt the Spirit say that these were false truths. I feel very disheartened when I hear of more hooops to jump through when it is so clear that God is a loving god who wants all to inherit the kingdom. “The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9
even Christ said there is only one God in heaven and thats the God the father. how can you say that there is God the mother? even Christ testify about it. and in genesis
it said "let us make man in our image" who is this "us"? they said its the God the father and God the mother because of the "male and female" they're really wrong.. why? because God standard is different from human standard and they said its "logical". remember God's wisdom is more than what we have. lets go back to this "us" read john 1:1-2 "in the beginning was the word. and the word was with God.and the word was God. he was with God in the beginning." <— does this say he was with "them"? or he was with "Gods" >.< see?! and on the revelation that they red to you it said there the lamb and "his bride" for them it was God the father and "his bride"
bride again? so God is going to marry another woman? coz if you said God the mother and God the father and it is a "spiritual family" so it means they are already "married" right? why is there a bride again in the last day? (adultery?) the new jerusalem?
in Christ's second coming the church is getting ready for the wedding to Christ "the lamb" perfect, holy and blameless. they also said its a conflict. who will be presented on the earth? coz the church is in the earth but remember this when rapture comes the "true church" which is of Christ will be lifted up. and Christ will present the church to the "unbelievers" which is the "world" and Christ will present them as holy and blameless and obeys God's commands. dont buy there argument because what i said on the beginning Christ testifies that there is only one God in heaven and that is God the father.
Christ didnt even talk about God the mother he always call on God the father. he only prays to "God the father"
I had a similar experience a few days ago here in Richmond, VA. I was approached by a male and female who asked, " Have I heard of the 'mother god?'" As with most people who posted here, the first scripture they took me to was Revelation. Not to brag, but I'm pretty well-versed in the Bible so I was able to see through much of their arguments.
They were nice (to me), however, they attempted to piece-meal single Bible verses together to prove their arguments, while totally ignoring context. They tried to show that "Jerusalem" in Galatians 4:26 referred to the "bride" in Revelation 22. "Jerusalem" in Galatians 4:26 is analogous to Sarai, the free woman, as opposed to Hagar, the slave woman. Paul was teaching the Galatians about the Mosaic law and the law of Christ, and how the women (Sarai and Hagar) were a representation of the two covenants.
If one doesn't study the Bible for themselves, one can be easily taken in by their weak theology.
The World Mission Society Church of God makes a donation to aid Haiti victims
30 June 2010, New York
On June 30, 2010, Joo Choel-Kim, Chief Pastor of the World Mission Society Church of God, and Amir Dossal, Executive Director of the United Nations Office for Partnerships (UNOP), convened for the first time to discuss partnership and volunteer opportunities within the New York Metro area and across the globe.
Earlier that day, Chief Pastor Kim flew in from Korea and personally delivered a donation to the Central Emergency Relief Fund (CERF) to aid Haiti’s earthquake victims. The donation by the Church, in the amount of $100,000, was the largest donation made by a faith-based organization in CERF history. It was raised through a concert held in Busan, Korea, where nearly 17,000 attended, including leaders and officials from the surrounding regions. In selecting a suitable beneficiary of the funds, the Church considered the Millennium Development Goals as decisive factors and wants to help the UN fulfill the Goals through a future partnership.
As one of the fastest growing churches in the world with over 1,000 branch churches in 150 different countries, the Church of God is eager to join hands with the UN to continue in its efforts to help natural disaster victims and the disadvantaged populations around the world.
For more information about the World Mission Society Church of God, please visit website (http://english.watv.org/).
http://www.un.org/partnerships/
Big deal. Just more propaganda for your website. What about Matthew 6? You shouldn’t sound a trumpet. Besides $100,000 is nothing compared to the millions that your organization collects from members’ tithes and freewill offerings. There is no financial transparency. No one really knows where the money goes and the pastors say that no one gets paid. Yeah right. Can you say crystal embellished ties?
God is not either a man or a female
God is only one and he alone we should worship and everything else is but a creature of the all mighty
there is a creator and then there is creation.
I too had an account similar to this last week. They argued the exact same verses and whenever I tried to open their eyes to show them that there is only ONE God… they went round in circles and argued the same points.
I feel a complete aching and sickness in my heart that these people are so weak in their faith as to believe something which is completely FALSE. They're taking the bible, which is centred around the fact that it is ONLY through JESUS that we can have SALVATION.
The bible has warned us to be wary of FALSE PROPHETS in these times. And I strongly feel the Holy Spirit warning me that this is such.
They're trying to turn God into something they can understand on human terms. The fact is HE IS GOD. He is the ONLY one. We should not offer up our praise and worship to FALSE IDOLS. If your life becomes focused around the 'Mother God' you are TOTALLY missing the whole point of JESUS and SALVATION!
Why has someone become so fixated with the fact that we have both male and female?? Does only the physical stuff matter to them?? Why does someone feel the need to preach about some false God, when they could be bringing people to TRUE SALVATION.
Someone has clearly interpreted the bible through a completely worldly view, and sadly others are believing it. I have however got a positive out of the encounter – It's inspired me to delve further into my bible reading, so if there is a next time, I can hopefully point them straight to the TRUTH, and have scripture to prove it.
I too had an account similar to this last week. They argued the exact same verses and whenever I tried to open their eyes to show them that there is only ONE God… they went round in circles and argued the same points.
I feel a complete aching and sickness in my heart that these people are so weak in their faith as to believe something which is completely FALSE. They're taking the bible, which is centred around the fact that it is ONLY through JESUS that we can have SALVATION.
The bible has warned us to be wary of FALSE PROPHETS in these times. And I strongly feel the Holy Spirit warning me that this is such.
They're trying to turn God into something they can understand on human terms. The fact is HE IS GOD. He is the ONLY one. We should not offer up our praise and worship to FALSE IDOLS. If your life becomes focused around the 'Mother God' you are TOTALLY missing the whole point of JESUS and SALVATION!
Why has someone become so fixated with the fact that we have both male and female?? Does only the physical stuff matter to them?? Why does someone feel the need to preach about some false God, when they could be bringing people to TRUE SALVATION.
Someone has clearly interpreted the bible through a completely worldly view, and sadly others are believing it. I have however got a positive out of the encounter – It's inspired me to delve further into my bible reading, so if there is a next time, I can hopefully point them straight to the TRUTH, and have scripture to prove it.
Eerie and tragic. There is no other name by which we are saved. Only Jesus.
I was approached by a girl in Bryant Park, NYC, today. Everything was out of context. I have non-believing friends who admit that, just as a system, Christianity is "reasonable." What this girl was saying, was- there was no way a thinking person could tack it onto Christianity. God, help!
Yes. Salvation is only through Jesus. Ironically, the man that they believe to be “god” wrote the same thing in his own book.
http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/?p=272
You say this happened to you at Pentagon City? The mall or near there? I live really close by and I go to Tyson's to evangelize every now and then. Im thinking it might be time to switch malls. Feel free to email me to talk about it. You said you did stuff like it and Im curios to see your experiences.
I was just approached by two door-to-door "evangelists" today. At first I thought they must be Mormon, but they denied it and I found this blog entry.
Apparently the "Christ Ahn Sang-hong" has already died; why do they still follow him? And what about this Mother Goddess? Has she died yet? Too bad we still have two years until 2012. But it seems the group is immune to falsification.
Just had a similar encounter with a door-to-door man claiming he was doing a study on "the female reaction to mother god" in Tucson, AZ. I'm a University student so I assumed it was for some sort of class so I gave him my ear. He gave me the whole spiel with all the bible verses previously mentioned and the "finish-the-sentence" tactic. He was nice enough but he had the same answer to every question that I asked, that we can only do exactly what the Bible says to go to Heaven, etc etc. He didn't mention anything about Korea except that his church originated there and he didn't actually mention the name of his church, even a local branch, throughout. Strangely, though, this man mentioned that he did not believe in 2012 and didn't mention anything about Ahn Sang-Hong or the like. It seems like they just moved past his death and continued with their beliefs like nothing happened, based on what this guy said to me. Anyway, I googled the information to try to find the name of the church and I stumbled here. It's scary to see how widespread this is!
I too have had these "church of god" (because their "god" isn't my GOD) come to my house, not once, but twice now to tell me about "god the mother". The first time it was 2 women, the next was a male and female. They obviously cannot read the sign on my door that says "I already have a church home." because the second time they just wouldn't leave-so I rebuked them in the name of Jesus and they got the point and left! Don't bother to take any time to talk with them because they have been programmed and it would be a lesson in futility to do so.
I had a similar experience when I received a knock on my door from a couple missionaries. I wrote about it on my own blog entry here –> God the Mother?
That led to a follow up Meeting with the Missionaries that I managed to record :)
Definitely a heretical cult, all the way around. They even teach some strange things about the nature of the soul.
A cult. Brainwashes people who are weak in faith.Controls them by their doomsday sermon. This is what the bible warns about false prophet. A korean man caliming to be the re-incarnation of Christ and his girl friend calling herself Mother God and a bunch of loosers to fall for this version.
I live in New Jersey and have been approached by this group several times actually. Personally, I don't think a female god is a far-fetched idea. They have never been pushy and are actually very polite and decent looking.
I looked them up recently and despite all of the negative critcism, the church seems to be doing a lot of "good deeds" within their communities.
Lighten up folks. Cult is a very harsh word to use. God can do anything…come in the flesh, as a male OR female. WHO KNOWS.
James:
I am a member of the Chuch of God who believes in the Second Coming Christ and Heavenly Mother. My real name is Rachel and I live in New York City. I am deeply saddened and offended to read some of theses comments including calling our church a "cult." We are far from it (since by use, I understand the negative connotation).
Our church, for your information, has received countless awards from the president in several countries as well as being recognized as an exemplary group in the USA.
Most importantly, we have been immensely rewarded by God and our sole mission is to share God's love with others. We have never harmed anyone, or spread false rumors about anyone else…so please, if you really are interested in knowing more about God the Mother, please visit one of our locations. And then judge for yourself.
There is nothing crazy about God coming in the flesh again, from the East…and revealing the existence of God the Mother. You know what I find crazy? Most Christians nowadays claim to follow God, yet keep man-made traditions & holidays: Sunday worship, X-mas, Easter, etc which are all NOT in the bible. We point out this fact & are regarded as heretic?!
How about showing me passages which back up Christ being born in December? Or the day of worship falling on Sunday? Can you show me Communion in the Bible?
My point is, we can only see God when we KEEP what God commands (The law leads to Christ). So how can we say if God is this way or that way, if we are NOT keeping God's law at all?
Thank you & God bless you!
Rachel,
I believe you are a part of a cult in the negative sense because your church distorts the truth so much that it becomes a stumbling block for those who seek the actual Truth which it is distorting. I believe the Mormon Church is a cult. There are other aspects of a "cult" but in my opinion this is the most important. The founder of your faith twisted the Truth and it became a lie, I don't doubt what you believe is attractive but that is because it was based on something beautiful.
There is no doubt that cults can accomplish some wonderful things, because they have a way of bringing it's members together with a strong purpose. However just as easily they can accomplish great evil.
There is something wrong with the message that Christ has/will come again as the "Heavenly Mother" if it is not found in scripture or twisted from a few verses. The Bible warns of ANYONE who would teach another gospel.
Traditions…. the old testament is filled with them, the new testament too. Communion is a tradition given to us by Christ himself at the last super as an extension of the sedar dinner. It is not against the word of God to celebrate the Birth of Jesus once a year or celebrate him rising from the grave. You are certainly not regarded as heretics because you point out Christians have man made traditions. Everyone has traditions created by man… work, breakfast, lunch, dinner, calendar year, I'm sure your church has meetings and holds traditions. Your church is considered heretical because they teach another Truth about God and Salvation. If you try change who God is… that's a big no no in my Church. Worshiping God on Sundays does not change what we believe about God, nor does the day we celebrate Christ coming into the world. However… adding a personage to God and claiming something contrary to the word of God does attempt to change God.
We need not to keep God's law to see God… in the verse quoted to me in Romans by your church God is evident and clearly seen in his creation.
It's is impossible to keep God's Laws, that's why Christ came to do what we could not and pay the penalty that was ours. To know God you must know only Christ and His completed work on the cross. To see God… look around and read his Word.
One question for you Rachel… where is your Heavenly Mother buried? I'm curious.
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HELP!! My mother has joined this group down in Florida and she warns myself, brother and sister that we are going to the lake of fire unless we join her church and accept the true God. Not to mention my baby now 7 months will also burn in hell unless baptized as his sole was bad and thrown out of heaven and cast into his current body… yes this is her one grandchild she is talking about!
After our father passed she was lost about ten years ago and still raised my younger brother. After he graduated high school and moved to Florida she followed him down there. While she was down in Florida she had only one friend and no family around for company. She was lost and these people a (Salon Stylist) found her and told her about mother god. My mother fell for it hook line and sinker. We are trying to continue our relationship with our mother as best we can with out her religious banters however even after a nice chat last night she still sends us emails preparing us for the impending doom that is coming. PLEASE PLEASE any advise in this matter is greatly appreciated. I held off on posting our issue online but at this point I don’t really give a hoot anymore, we need help!
Wow! Two years later and this blog insert is still active. I live in Korea and just had some visitors from this organization. Their doctrine is quite strange and shows how a few texts can be so totally taken out of context. It’s also amazing how an entire world organization such as this one can have its basis in only a few verses. What a shaky foundation. But they are strong here…and determined. Needless to say, I have to agree with James. The Bible must always be read contextually.
I had the same experience to in Glendale Ca., at the glendale galleria mall. It was around 8:00pm and i was just getting out of work, two men came up to me and said are you a christian??? and i turn and said ” no thanks, yes i am saved i dont need you to talk to me thanks im good thanks.” I thought they were Jehovahs, then one of the guys said no its okay im not a jehovehs witness!” so i felt like is should stop and turn around to listen to them and so i did. They started talking to me about how we had a mother god in heaven and showed me scriptures about how we do not keep the sabbath day which is really on saturday not sunday. Sunday was found by man, and how the last supper was not kept at the appointed time and day, and that if i dont keep the supper appointed time and date i would not be “technically” saved. I argued that christ already did that and they said but that was when he lived now and now you need to recieve his blood and flesh in the spirit at the appointed time and date every year, and how mother god is the bride of god and we have spiritual parents in heaven. Yada Yada Yada. At first i believed them and went with them to see their church in sunland. Then i asked around my fellow christian friends and they seem to think its sketchy…. I was confused and didnt know who or what to believe. They got me thinking i was blinded and 99% if christians are blinded by by satan still and we got scripture wrong…. Now i know that others have been almost nearly fooled like i was and now i know that i am saved and i am sure that i am a christian now i can continue to believe what i first believed when i recieved christ for the first time!
The Church Of God preaches the true gospel. I have been to several churches and non of the churches Ive been too preaches the one and only gospel. it’s hard to understand the truth because God says he will blind the eyes of those who doesnt keep his laws and commits adultries with other idols. We study the bible and understand that the bible old and new is ONE. When u guys do study about David’s reign than maybe u will have a better understanding of the 2nd coming of Christ. But till then the hidden manner is not given to everyone but only through God’s spirit u can completely understand God’s holy teaching. We may not be loved by many from the world but at least we are loved by God.
God Christ Ahsahnghong said that there is our God the Mother, Heavenly Mother in heaven. Let’s find out about Heavenly Jerusalem Mother, God the Mother through the Bible in World Mission Soceity Church of God.
The character Abraham is used to represent God in the Bible. Through the history of Abraham’s family, God has revealed to us how we can inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Isaac was the one who received Abraham’s inheritance. Even though Abraham had another son named Ishmael, born through Hagar, God did not allow Ishmael to receive the inheritance of Abraham. Rather, God bestowed the inheritance upon Isaac, who was born through Sarah. The reason why Isaac was chosen as Abraham’s heir was that Isaac was the son of Sarah, who was free. This history shows us that the heavenly inheritance will be given to those who are born of the heavenly Mother, who is free.
Christ Ahnsahnghong taught us that our heavenly Mother does in fact exist and that She is truly the biggest mystery hidden within the Bible.
Let us study “The History of Abraham’s Family and Mother,” taught to us by Christ Ahnsahnghong.
Abraham Represents GodFirst of all, we need to recognize who the character Abraham represents in the Bible.
Luke 16:19-31 『”…The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham…’ “』
As you know, this parable is about a beggar, named Lazarus, and a rich man. The parable tells of Lazarus, who died and was carried to heaven, and a rich man, who was sent to hell to be tormented. Lazarus was obviously carried to God’s side after he had died; however, the Bible states that Lazarus traveled to Abraham’s side. In the parable, the rich man, who went to hell, called up to God in the distance; however, the Bible states that the man saw Abraham, and called up to him, saying, “Father Abraham.” Who is the only one who is worthy to be called “Father” in the spiritual world? God is the only one who can be called upon in this way. Then, whom does Abraham represent? Logically, the character Abraham was chosen to represent God. Therefore, the inheritance of Abraham can be likened to the inheritance of God, the kingdom of heaven.
Isaac, the Heir of AbrahamThen, let us find out who was appointed as Abraham’s heir. There were three candidates who could have been chosen as the heir of Abraham: Eliezer, Ishmael, and Isaac. Among them, who became Abraham’s heir? It was Isaac who was appointed. We need to understand the reason why Isaac was chosen to be Abraham’s heir.
Gen. 15:1-4 『…But Abram said, “O Sovereign LORD, what can you give me since I remain childless and the one who will inherit my estate is Eliezer of Damascus?” And Abram said, “You have given me no children; so a servant in my household will be my heir.” Then the word of the LORD came to him: “This man will not be your heir, but a son coming from your own body will be your heir.”』
When Abraham was an old man and had not yet borne a son, he asked God to allow his servant Eliezer to be his heir. However, God did not allow Eliezer to become Abraham’s heir, revealing that a son would be born from Abraham’s own body and that he would become his heir. Some time later, Hagar, Sarah’s maidservant, bore Abraham a son: Ishmael.
Gen. 16:1-15 『Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian maidservant named Hagar; so she said to Abram, “The LORD has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my maidservant; perhaps I can build a family through her.” Abram agreed to what Sarai said…So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave the name Ishmael to the son she had borne.』
Ishmael was born to Abraham through a maidservant named Hagar, and Abraham asked God to allow Ishmael to become his heir.
Gen. 17:18-19 『And Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!” Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.』
When Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing,” God did not allow Ishmael to become his heir. Instead, God promised Abraham that he would have a son through his wife, Sarah. Isaac was born as God had promised, and of the three?Eliezer, Ishmael, and Isaac?Isaac was chosen to be Abraham’s heir.
The Key Factor in Deciding an Heir Is “Mother”Let’s study the reason why God chose Isaac to be Abraham’s heir. Both Eliezer’s father and his mother were slaves, neither of them was free. This is the reason why God did not allow him to be Abraham’s heir. Ishmael’s father, Abraham, was free, but his mother, Hagar, was a slave and not a free woman. This is why God could not allow Ishmael to become Abraham’s heir. Isaac’s father, Abraham, was a free man, and his mother, Sarah, was a free woman. The fact that Isaac had been born of a free woman was the big difference between Ishmael and Isaac, and this discrepancy became the key factor in choosing Abraham’s heir.
In those days, the eldest son inherited all of his family’s property. Since Ishmael was older than Isaac, he should have become the heir? that is, if God had made His decision according to the paternal line. Ishmael was not chosen to become Abraham’s heir, even though he was Abraham’s eldest son, because his mother was not a free woman, but a slave. Thus, it is clear that the decisive factor in choosing Abraham’s heir was his mother.
What we need to focus on while studying the history of Abraham’s family is not merely the story of a man and his family. As you know, the Bible is not a storybook to tell us of men and their families. Nevertheless, God repeatedly mentioned the story of this particular family. Actually, the history of Abraham was a shadow of what was to happen in the future. In order for us to know who could become God’s heir, the story of Abraham’s family was written, as a prophecy.
Therefore, through the history of Abraham’s family, we can clearly understand that the decisive factor in choosing an heir is the mother. As Isaac became Abraham’s heir through Sarah, his free mother, we can become God’s heirs through our heavenly Mother, who is a free woman. Only those who believe in the heavenly Mother?only the children who are born through the new covenant?can inherit the heavenly Father’s kingdom. Let us read one more verse testifying about the heavenly Mother.
Gal. 4:22-31 『…But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother…Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. But what does the Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.』
The Bible declares that we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman. Ishmael could not inherit his father’s estate because his mother, Hagar, was only a slave, not a free woman. On the other hand, Isaac was chosen to become Abraham’s heir because his mother, Sarah, was a free woman. The Bible also testifies that we, like Isaac, are the children of promise, the children of the heavenly Mother, who is free.
In today’s world, there are three types of people: those who are like Eliezer, those like Ishmael, and those who are like Isaac. The first type of people, who are like Eliezer, are atheists, who do not believe in Father God or in Mother God. The second type of people, who are like Ishmael, are those who believe in Father God, but do not believe in Mother God. The third type of people, who are like Isaac, are those who believe in Mother God as well as Father God. According to the history of Abraham’s family, which one of these three types can become an heir of the kingdom of heaven? Only the third type of people, who are like Isaac, can be recognized as God’s heirs. There is no doubt about it.
Which group of people do you want to be classified with? If you want to be like Isaac, you must first become a child of the free woman. Thus, you must accept the heavenly Mother, who is free. The Bible testifies to this fact.
God said, “My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge” (Hos. 4:6). What kind of knowledge is God referring to in this verse? We must recognize that we have a God the Mother, as well as a God the Father. We must accept Elohim God. Also, we must firmly believe that God is our Mother, who gives us salvation alongside our Father. Only after we come to realize this can we say that we have the knowledge of God, and that we will not be those who are destroyed from a “lack of knowledge.”
The Bible testifies that the Holy Spirit is God Ahnsahnghong, and that the Bride is Jerusalem Mother. Let us accept God Ahnsahnghong, the Holy Spirit, and Jerusalem Mother, the Bride, who give us the water of life in these last days, so that we can enter the kingdom of heaven.
This commenter did not use a real name or email address but tries to defend the cult with some new verses so I thought I’d post it. What do you think?
No need to entertain the scripture twisting. Ahnsahnghong was married with 3 children and was an adulteror. His first mistress, a woman named UmSooIn claimed that she was the “mother god” first. Ahnsahnghong wrote a book about how ridiculous the idea of a “mother god” was. Click here to read some of the chapters that have been translated into English http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/problems-with-new-jerusalem-the-bride-and-womens-veils-by-ahnsahnghong/. But Zhanggiljah (the woman the wmscog believes to be the “mother god”) uses the same verses that Ahnsahnghong refutes to claim that she is divine. She was also an adulterer as she divorced her husband to be with Ahnsanghong. Adulterers can not be gods! The true God is perfect and sinless.
Hello! I was approached by 2 young ladies in shopping center in Swede and I also thought that they are street evangelists and engaged in conversation. How shall real Christian act in this situation and what shall we do in order to stop spreading the lies all around the world?
i also had the same encounter. they argue the same verses. didn’t they think that if Jesus were to be made alive again as their ahnsanhong, it would be like reincarnation. reincarnation is not of the law that God has set on earth.
also, what really matters is how we treat God in or daily lives and how we love Him. Love is the greatest law.
It is the gospel of times. Even until now, God is hoping that soon everyone on earth will understand His heart.
That’s it. Thanks!
God bless you all!
Passover The Way to Truly Love God and receive Eternal Life.
Many Christians profess that they love Jesus. Whether Catholics, Born Again, or some other denominations, they claim to love God. But how can we truly love God? Is it by just saying with our own lips that we love God? Let’s see through the Bible.
Jn. 14:15 – 15 “If you love me, keep my commands
Jn. 14:21 – 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
Jesus Himself told us that if we truly love Him, we must obey His commandments. Then why does Jesus wants us to love Him? What will He give us?
Luke 10:25-28 – 25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
We can see here that an expert in the law was asking and testing Jesus on what is written in the Law in order to have eternal life? We can understand that this guy that’s expert in the law are referring to the Old Testament Law since the New Testament was not written yet during the time of Jesus here on earth. According to Jesus answer, in order for us to have eternal life, we must “LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH. This is written in the Law or Old Testament. Then we can have a clue that the way to fulfill this is by finding out in the Law or Old Testament. Lets see.
Deut. 6:5-9 – 5 LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES and on your gates.
Wow this was the same words that Jesus told the expert in the law. Then we can see a clue here on verse 9 that says “WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES”. Now let’s check for another clue on the same chapter.
Deut. 6:20-25 – 20 In the future, when your son asks you, “What is the meaning of the stipulations, decrees and laws the LORD our God has commanded you?” 21 tell him: “We were slaves of Pharaoh in Egypt, but the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand. 22 Before our eyes the LORD sent signs and wonders—great and terrible—on Egypt and Pharaoh and his whole household. 23 But he brought us out from there to bring us in and give us the land he promised on oath to our ancestors. 24 The LORD commanded us to obey all these decrees and to fear the LORD our God, so that we might always prosper and be kept alive, as is the case today. 25 And if we are careful to obey all this law before the LORD our God, as he has commanded us, that will be our righteousness.”
Ok so this are the commandment’s clue are:
- WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES
- COMMANDMENT THAT BROUGHT THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EGYPT
Then let’s see what is this.
Exo. 12:1-14 – 1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt, 2 “This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year. 3 Tell the whole community of Israel that on the tenth day of this month each man is to take a lamb[a] for his family, one for each household. 4 If any household is too small for a whole lamb, they must share one with their nearest neighbor, having taken into account the number of people there are. You are to determine the amount of lamb needed in accordance with what each person will eat. 5 The animals you choose must be year-old males without defect, and you may take them from the sheep or the goats. 6 Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when all the members of the community of Israel must slaughter them at twilight. 7 THEN THEY ARE TO TAKE SOME OF THE BLOOD AND PUT IT ON THE SIDES AND TOPS OF THE DOOR FRAMES OF THE HOUSES WHERE THEY EAT THE LAMBS. 8 That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast. 9 Do not eat the meat raw or boiled in water, but roast it over a fire—with the head, legs and internal organs. 10 Do not leave any of it till morning; if some is left till morning, you must burn it. 11 This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; IT IS THE LORD’S PASSOVER.
12 “On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD. 13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.
14 “This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the LORD—a lasting ordinance.
Now its clear. The PASSOVER is the commandment that would fulfill the “LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH”. When the Israelites kept the Passover, they were freed from Egypt. So it is the PASSOVER.
Then 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ established the Passover of the New Covenant which is the reality.
Lk. 22:8 – 8 Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.”
Lk. 22:14-15 – 14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.
Lk. 22:19-20 – 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you
By keeping the Passover, we can truly love God and receive eternal life.
John 6:53-55 — JESUS SAID to them, “I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, UNLESS you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. WHOEVER EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD REMAINS IN ME, AND I IN HIM.
Thanks to Heavenly Father Christ Ahnsahnghong, the 2nd Coming Christ according to the prophecies of the Bible, for reminding us the precious truth.
Jn. 14:25-26 – 25 “All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the COUNSELOR, THE HOLY SPIRIT, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and WILL REMIND YOU OF EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID TO YOU.
Let’s have true faith in Jesus by following His Words of Life so that we can truly Love Him and receive eternal life.
Jn. 3:16 – 16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
Jam. 2:17-19 – 17 In the same way, FAITH BY ITSELF, IF IT IS NOT ACCOMPANIED BY ACTION IS DEAD. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
to bell,
now i do not see the connection from loving God and eating passover.
your verses aren’t clear. sorry but even a junior high student will not believe your sequence of arguments.
furthermore, loving God is not merely about following some sets of traditions that we get from the bible.
we should love God in the way that he wants us to love Him.
for that to happen, we should understand His heart.
and about eating the Lord’s flesh and drinking His blood, i hope u don’t take it literally. it is inhumane. it is supposed to mean something else.
Many Christians profess that they love Jesus. Whether Catholics, Born Again, or some other denominations, they claim to love God and THEY ALL TRY TO LOVE GOD ACCORDING TO THEIR OPINION, NOT FROM THE BIBLE. But how can we truly love God? Is it by just saying with our own lips that we love God? LET’S SEE THROUGH THE BIBLE.
Jn. 14:15 – 15 “If you love me, keep my commands
Jn. 14:21 – 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
Jesus Himself told us that if we truly love Him, we must obey His commandments. Then why does Jesus wants us to love Him? What will He give us?
Luke 10:25-28 – 25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
We can see here that an expert in the law was asking and testing Jesus on what is written in the Law in order to have eternal life? We can understand that this guy that’s expert in the law are referring to the Old Testament Law since the New Testament was not written yet during the time of Jesus here on earth. According to Jesus answer, in order for us to have eternal life, we must “LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH. This is written in the Law or Old Testament. Then we can have a clue that the way to fulfill this is by finding out in the Law or Old Testament. Lets see.
Deut. 6:5-9 – 5 LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES and on your gates.
Wow this was the same words that Jesus told the expert in the law. Then we can see a clue here on verse 9 that says “WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES”. Now let’s check for another clue on the same chapter.
Deut. 6:20-25 – 20 In the future, when your son asks you, “What is the meaning of the stipulations, decrees and laws the LORD our God has commanded you?” 21 tell him: “We were slaves of Pharaoh in Egypt, but the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand. 22 Before our eyes the LORD sent signs and wonders—great and terrible—on Egypt and Pharaoh and his whole household. 23 But he brought us out from there to bring us in and give us the land he promised on oath to our ancestors. 24 The LORD commanded us to obey all these decrees and to fear the LORD our God, so that we might always prosper and be kept alive, as is the case today. 25 And if we are careful to obey all this law before the LORD our God, as he has commanded us, that will be our righteousness.”
Ok so this are the commandment’s clue are:
- WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES
- COMMANDMENT THAT BROUGHT THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EGYPT
Then let’s see what is this.
Exo. 12:1-14 – 1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt, 2 “This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year. 3 Tell the whole community of Israel that on the tenth day of this month each man is to take a lamb[a] for his family, one for each household. 4 If any household is too small for a whole lamb, they must share one with their nearest neighbor, having taken into account the number of people there are. You are to determine the amount of lamb needed in accordance with what each person will eat. 5 The animals you choose must be year-old males without defect, and you may take them from the sheep or the goats. 6 Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when all the members of the community of Israel must slaughter them at twilight. 7 THEN THEY ARE TO TAKE SOME OF THE BLOOD AND PUT IT ON THE SIDES AND TOPS OF THE DOOR FRAMES OF THE HOUSES WHERE THEY EAT THE LAMBS. 8 That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast. 9 Do not eat the meat raw or boiled in water, but roast it over a fire—with the head, legs and internal organs. 10 Do not leave any of it till morning; if some is left till morning, you must burn it. 11 This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; IT IS THE LORD’S PASSOVER.
12 “On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD. 13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.
14 “This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the LORD—a lasting ordinance.
Now its clear. The PASSOVER is the commandment that would fulfill the “LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH”. When the Israelites kept the Passover, they were freed from Egypt. So it is the PASSOVER.
Then 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ established the Passover of the New Covenant which is the reality.
Lk. 22:8 – 8 Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.”
Lk. 22:14-15 – 14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.
Lk. 22:19-20 – 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you
By keeping the Passover, we can truly love God and receive eternal life.
John 6:53-55 — JESUS SAID to them, “I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, UNLESS you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. WHOEVER EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD REMAINS IN ME, AND I IN HIM.
Thanks to Heavenly Father Christ Ahnsahnghong, the 2nd Coming Christ according to the prophecies of the Bible, for reminding us the precious truth.
Jn. 14:25-26 – 25 “All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the COUNSELOR, THE HOLY SPIRIT, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and WILL REMIND YOU OF EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID TO YOU.
Let’s have true faith in Jesus by following His Words of Life so that we can truly Love Him and receive eternal life.
Jn. 3:16 – 16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
Jam. 2:17-19 – 17 In the same way, FAITH BY ITSELF, IF IT IS NOT ACCOMPANIED BY ACTION IS DEAD. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
bell, u just reposted it. is love mere obedience of an ordinance? love is more than just following the tradition of the passover. open your eyes. love.
how do you love a person? love God more than that. love. remember love. not only obey. if it was just to follow the traditions then it should have been written “obey God with all your heart, soul and strength” but what was written was LOVE. L-O-V-E.
I had this exact experience happen to me this Friday by my mailbox. Since I was not in a rush, I figured I wouldn’t be rude, and I would here them out. They used the same quotes with me. I knew it didn’t seem correct, but my biblical literacy is not very good. I had no idea how to help them recant their current belief. Instead I just listened, I said I would need to do some further investigation, but I hoped God would be with them on their mission. (Obviously, I was hoping God would show them the Truth.) I love how you responded…I believed what the Bible says… “yes, when it is read in context.” This experience came at an interesting time. Last week, with my small group, we were helping one of our friends become prepared to confront her friend who was a Jehovah’s Witness. We immediately started delving into the Bible. I thought it might be interesting to explore other religions in our small group in order to be better prepared to defend christianity and Biblical Truths. Does anyone have any suggestions on a good book to help guide us through that process? Obviously, we would be using the Bible as well. Thank you.
go to examiningthewmscog.com for evidence that this group is a cult
hm. except form making people believe about their church leader, i wonder what they really preach about. anyway, it won’t matter much to me. i just worry about those who listen to them.
for now, i can’t suggest a book which u can use to guide u but i know a church that preaches the truth, the word that is appropriate for our time. (for this modern time where in reality not much really worships carved idols but they do worship human idols)
as for now, you can use the bible as a reference for itself. all your questions about the bible are already answered in the bible. you just have to know how to find them. and please, don’t interpret the bible according to your own thoughts. Remember that God’s thoughts are different from our thoughts. :D
God bless you all!
850 Baal Worshippers and Elijah
Everything written in the Bible is a copy and shadow of the things to come. By looking into the shadowy work in the Old Testament, we come to know and understand the things of the present or of the future.
1. Everything written in the past has become a lesson.
(Rom 15:4) For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us.
• Then, what was written in the past that God wanted us to understand?
• The prophet Malachi prophesied that there will be the appearance of the Elijah before the last destruction.
(Mal 4:1) “Surely that day is coming; it will burn like a furnace…”
(Mal 4:4-6) “Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel. “See, I will send you the prophet Elijah…”
• God stated that we should remember the Law just before the end, but this law mentioned here by the prophet Malachi became Christ’s law which was fulfilled on the cross two thousand years ago by Jesus Christ. (Heb 7:11-12)
• This Elijah must also turn our hearts back to our Father (Mal 1:6) as stated in Malachi 4:5.
2. Then who is this Elijah that will appear in the last days just before the last destruction.
• When we study the history of Israel, we can clearly see the blueprint that God laid out for us in these last days. By studying the history of Israel we can the role of Elijah, where he will come from and why he will appear in the last days before the destruction.
• In Israel’s history there where many kings that played major roles for and against God’s people until the appearance of Elijah. King David was known for establishing Zion for God’s people. After David’s reign, King Solomon was known for being the one who built God’s temple (1 Kings 6:1). Toward the end of Solomon’s reign, he broke God’s covenant and sinned. As a result, God tore his kingdom into two areas (1 Kings 11:11). The Northern half was given to King Jeroboam and the Southern half was given to King Rehoboam.
• From northern Israel we can see the sin of King Jeroboam and how his actions became a shadow of things to come.
(1 Kings 12:25-33) “Here are your God’s, O Israel…And this thing became a sin”
• The first thing he die was make two golden calves, one in Bethel and the other in Dan, and in the eyes of God this thing became a SIN!
• Second, he instituted a festival that looked just like God’s festivals in Judah.
• Can we say that his festival is a sin? (Yes) because his festival is offered to an Idol.
• He also instituted a festival on the fifteenth day of the eighth month, a month of his own choosing
(Isa 1:10-16) “Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts my soul hates”
• “When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide my eyes from you!”
• “Take your evil deeds out of my sight!”
• “Stop doing Wrong”
3. Ahab son of Omri did more evil in the eyes of the Lord.
(1 Kings 16:30-33) “He not only…commit the sins of Jeroboam…, but he married Jezebel…”
• He set up an altar for Baal in the temple of Baal.
• Ahab was known as the worst king and…”did more to provoke the Lord, the God of Israel, to anger than did all the kings of Israel before him.
(I Kings 17:1) “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”
4. The mission and the appearance of Elijah.
(1 Kings 18:1-4, 16-21) In the third year Elijah went to present himself to Ahab.
• When Ahab saw Elijah he stated “Is that you, you troubler of Israel?”
• Elijah explained “You have abandoned the Lord’s commands and have followed the Baal’s”.
• Elijah summoned all 850 false prophets to meet him on Mount Carmel.
• “How long will you waver between two opinions?”
• When Elijah returned he found that no one had faith in the true God! (Shadow)
(1 Kings 18:22-29) “The god who answers by fire…he is God”
• The acts of the Baal worshipers. (Idol worship, dancing around, frantic prophesying…)
• Even thought they shouted, “there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.”
• Why? The bible teaches that when we worship idols or do not obey the commands of God, he hides his face from us and does not listen to our prayers. (Isaiah 1:15; Jeremiah 11:3, Jeremiah11:11-17; Ezekiel 8:18; John 9:31; Proverbs 28:9)
(1 Kings 18:30-40) “He repaired the altar of the Lord, which was in ruins.”
• Elijah rebuilt the altar of God using 12 stones.
• At time of evening sacrifice he prayed “I…have done all these things at your command…so these people will know that you O Lord, are God, and that you are turning their heart back again” (Proverbs 15:29)
• His prayer became a prophecy in Malachi 4:5 that would be fulfilled in the last days.
• Then, the fire of the Lord was revealed.
(Eccl 1:9) “What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again”
(Eccl 3:15) “Whatever is has already been…God will call the past to account”
• The scriptures testify that Jesus is the fulfillment of King David. When David reigned as King he established Zion; this was to show how Jesus would establish Zion through the festivals of the New Covenant.
(2 Sam 17:21-23) Ahithophel’s betrayal and suicide by hanging…
• Ahithophel was David’s counselor. (2 Sam 15:2, 16:23)
(Matt 27:3-5) Judas’ betrayal of Jesus and suicide by hanging…
• Later after King David’s reign, Solomon took the throne. This history became a shadow of the apostles preaching after Jesus death on the cross.
• After King Solomon the nation was split into two, this was a shadow to show what would happen to the church after the Apostolic Age. The Church was divided into two, Eastern Church and the Western Church.
• Through Northern Israel we can see the sin of Jeroboam by his making feasts that look like God’s feast. The Church in Rome in the year A.D. 150 began to accept a different gospel that looked like the gospel of Christ.
• Then, who is the reality of Ahab and Jezebel?
(Rev 2:20) “Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess”
• The book of Revelations was written around A.D. 97-106 and John see’s the appearance of Jezebel after the apostolic age.
• Because of Ahab and Jezebel, the people began to serve Baal and worship many Idols which caused God to shut up the sky. Their disobedience caused them to lose their Rain and Dew for the next few years.
(Luke 4:25) “When the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was a server famine” (1,260 days)
(James 5:17) “It did not rain on the land for three and a half years” (1,260 days)
• The, what is the meaning of shutting up the sky so that people will experience a great famine of no rain and no dew?
(Duet 32:2) “Let my teaching fall like rain and my words descend like dew”
(Amos 8:11) “But a famine of hearing the words of the Lord”
• Then, who became the reality of Ahab and Jezebel?
• Because of the Pope and Constantine, the church began to worship the Sun God and many idols.
• There was a great famine of hearing the words of God for 1,260 years!
(Hosea 2:8) “She has not acknowledged that I was the one…which they used for Baal”
• “I will stop all her celebrations…her Sabbaths…all her appointed Feats”
• “I will punish her for the days she burned incense to the Baals.”
• “But me she forgot, declares the Lord”
5. As prophesied in Malachi, there must be the Elijah who will appear to rebuild the Lord’s altar in the last days.
• Then, who is the Elijah that is to come in the last days?
• Elijah appeared from the East. (1 Kings 17:1) (Josh 17:5)
• He didn’t find faith with the people when he returned. (1 Kings 18:21)
• He rebuilt the altar with 12 stones.
• He revealed the truth of God by Fire!
This is a prophecy about Jesus who is to come again in the flesh to restore the truth and to seek his people in the last days.
(Rev 7:1-4) “Then I saw another angel (Christ) coming up from the East”
(Luke 18:8) “However, when the Son of Man (Christ) comes, will he find faith on the Earth?”
• This is the reality of Elijah finding no faith with the people when he returned. (2nd coming)
If Jesus came into this faithless world as the Last Judge, who would be saved? As Elijah had to rebuild the altar of the Lord, Christ himself must come a second time to restore all truth so that we can be saved.
(Luke 12:49) “I have come to bring fire on the Earth, and how I wish it were already kindle!”
(Jer 5:14) “I will make my words in your mouth like fire”
(Jer 23:29) “Is not my word like fire”
The meaning of Elijah is God – Jehovah ( Eli = God, Jah or Yaw = Jehovah). This was to show that God must come again in the last days as the prophetical Elijah to restore and rebuild the altar which was in ruins. Christ AhnSahngHong came in the last day as our Elijah. Father came from the east, rebuilt the altar of truth and exposed the characteristics of the Baal worshipers.
Wow, this post comments will probably just go on and on and..
Hi, I am from Malaysia and had the same experience today. The people who spoke to me were Koreans, so it was a little difficult to counter at times.
I am totally with James and most of you.
Guys & Gals, please study the context of the scriptures and you will find that all of what was shared was completely skewed perspectively and misrepresented.
Anyway, I told them my point of view. One girl got very worked up. Luckily I didn’t invite them, I had a very VERY uncomfortable feeling about all this.
I told them I respected their viewpoints and that they should respect mine. To their credit (or at least to the other two), they were more civil and kind.
There is no theological evidence of this Mother God they propose. They usually use word play on semantics of the words, bride or woman or her / she. I did explain to them that using “she” for Jerusalem is simply as a term of endearment (just as we would use for a beautiful car, ship, a beloved city etc).
And as mentioned numerous times above, it is NOT written AT ALL in the bible. The whole bible is ONLY about God’s redemption plan through Jesus Christ.
Stay blessed!
Josh
josh:
howdy?
yes. sometimes, people interpret the bible with their own perspectives. we actually have to think of God’s perspectives, right? [insert smiley.haha] also, we should not take the bible literally but rather take it always as a whole when we try to study it.
just always remember that the greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart, soul and strength [and to love Him above everything] may His peace be with you!
Many Christians profess that they love Jesus. Whether Catholics, Born Again, or some other denominations, they claim to love God and THEY ALL TRY TO LOVE GOD ACCORDING TO THEIR OPINION, NOT FROM THE BIBLE. But how can we truly love God? Is it by just saying with our own lips that we love God? LET’S SEE THROUGH THE BIBLE.
Jn. 14:15 – 15 “If you love me, keep my commands
Jn. 14:21 – 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
Jesus Himself told us that if we truly love Him, we must obey His commandments. Then why does Jesus wants us to love Him? What will He give us?
Luke 10:25-28 – 25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
We can see here that an expert in the law was asking and testing Jesus on what is written in the Law in order to have eternal life? We can understand that this guy that’s expert in the law are referring to the Old Testament Law since the New Testament was not written yet during the time of Jesus here on earth. According to Jesus answer, in order for us to have eternal life, we must “LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH. This is written in the Law or Old Testament. Then we can have a clue that the way to fulfill this is by finding out in the Law or Old Testament. Lets see.
Deut. 6:5-9 – 5 LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES and on your gates.
Wow this was the same words that Jesus told the expert in the law. Then we can see a clue here on verse 9 that says “WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES”. Now let’s check for another clue on the same chapter.
Deut. 6:20-25 – 20 In the future, when your son asks you, “What is the meaning of the stipulations, decrees and laws the LORD our God has commanded you?” 21 tell him: “We were slaves of Pharaoh in Egypt, but the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand. 22 Before our eyes the LORD sent signs and wonders—great and terrible—on Egypt and Pharaoh and his whole household. 23 But he brought us out from there to bring us in and give us the land he promised on oath to our ancestors. 24 The LORD commanded us to obey all these decrees and to fear the LORD our God, so that we might always prosper and be kept alive, as is the case today. 25 And if we are careful to obey all this law before the LORD our God, as he has commanded us, that will be our righteousness.”
Ok so this are the commandment’s clue are:
- WRITE THEM ON THE DOOR FRAMES OF YOUR HOUSES
- COMMANDMENT THAT BROUGHT THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EGYPT
Then let’s see what is this.
Exo. 12:1-14 – 1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt, 2 “This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year. 3 Tell the whole community of Israel that on the tenth day of this month each man is to take a lamb[a] for his family, one for each household. 4 If any household is too small for a whole lamb, they must share one with their nearest neighbor, having taken into account the number of people there are. You are to determine the amount of lamb needed in accordance with what each person will eat. 5 The animals you choose must be year-old males without defect, and you may take them from the sheep or the goats. 6 Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when all the members of the community of Israel must slaughter them at twilight. 7 THEN THEY ARE TO TAKE SOME OF THE BLOOD AND PUT IT ON THE SIDES AND TOPS OF THE DOOR FRAMES OF THE HOUSES WHERE THEY EAT THE LAMBS. 8 That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast. 9 Do not eat the meat raw or boiled in water, but roast it over a fire—with the head, legs and internal organs. 10 Do not leave any of it till morning; if some is left till morning, you must burn it. 11 This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; IT IS THE LORD’S PASSOVER.
12 “On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD. 13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.
14 “This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the LORD—a lasting ordinance.
Now its clear. The PASSOVER is the commandment that would fulfill the “LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH”. When the Israelites kept the Passover, they were freed from Egypt. So it is the PASSOVER.
Then 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ established the Passover of the New Covenant which is the reality.
Lk. 22:8 – 8 Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.”
Lk. 22:14-15 – 14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.
Lk. 22:19-20 – 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you
By keeping the Passover, we can truly love God and receive eternal life.
John 6:53-55 — JESUS SAID to them, “I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, UNLESS you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. WHOEVER EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD REMAINS IN ME, AND I IN HIM.
Thanks to Heavenly Father Christ Ahnsahnghong, the 2nd Coming Christ according to the prophecies of the Bible, for reminding us the precious truth.
Jn. 14:25-26 – 25 “All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the COUNSELOR, THE HOLY SPIRIT, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and WILL REMIND YOU OF EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID TO YOU.
Let’s have true faith in Jesus by following His Words of Life so that we can truly Love Him and receive eternal life.
Jn. 3:16 – 16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
Jam. 2:17-19 – 17 In the same way, FAITH BY ITSELF, IF IT IS NOT ACCOMPANIED BY ACTION IS DEAD. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
Matthew 7:21-23 – 21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.
Passover, and the Reason Disasters Pass Over
Nowadays, so many disasters come upon this world. It was already prophesied in the Bible.
Mt. 24:6-8 『6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.』
God established the Passover to destroy the devil and give His children eternal life. Whoever dwells in Zion knows well the importance of the Passover. Now, we need to consider more carefully why disasters pass over us when we celebrate the Passover.
What is the true meaning of the Passover? What is the source of the power of the Passover to liberate us from disasters? Let’s study over these matters through the Bible, with a humble and modest attitude before God.
Escape from disasters through the blood of the Passover lamb
Passover is God’s appointed feast, which was established over 3500 years ago. When the Israelites lived as slaves in Egypt, God commanded Pharaoh to release Israel from Egypt. However, he refused God’s command, and God brought ten plagues upon Egypt. The tenth plague, the slaying of the firstborn, was about to fall upon Egypt on the night of the fourteenth day of the first month in the sacred calendar: God let the plague of death pass over the houses that had the blood of the Passover lamb on the sides and tops of the doorframes. This was the day of the Passover.
Ex 12:11-13 『”This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is the LORD’S Passover. On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn―both men and animals―and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD. The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are; and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.”』
That day, all the firstborn of Egypt were killed, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon. In Egypt there was not a house without someone dead (Ex 12:29-30). However, the Israelites, who painted the lamb’s blood on the doorposts and lintels of their houses, were saved from the plague of the firstborn in Egypt.
Ex 12:23 『When the LORD goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe and will pass over that doorway, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down.』
Here, we need to carefully consider why the plague of death passed over the people of Israel. It was not because of the people celebrating the Passover that the plague passed over, but because of the blood of the Passover lamb. Neither a wise man’s house nor a rich man’s house full of worldly treasures nor an influential royal family’s palace could escape the plague. Only the house marked with the blood of the Passover lamb was saved from the plague.
It is because of the blood of the Passover Lamb in us that we can escape disasters, not because we ourselves who celebrate the Passover are powerful. We have to carefully consider this: Because God protects us and wraps us with His invisible love and grace, all disasters are avoided, evil gods are judged, and we are redeemed from this sinful world. So, do not just consider the Passover itself, but feel the hand of God who guards and protects us through the Passover.
The really dreadful being
Let me tell you a fable. One day a fox met a tiger. The fox told the tiger, “Do you know that animals fear me more than you?” He claimed that he was the most dreadful animal in the forest.
The tiger, who claimed to be king of the animals, was amazed at the audacity of the beast that seemed to fall down if he kicked him once with his hind leg. Then the fox told him, “If you do not believe me, then follow me to the forest. You will see whether or not all the beasts fear me.”
The fox said confidently to the tiger. Being suspicious, the tiger followed on the heels of the fox. As the fox walked along with the tiger, the animals were all terribly frightened and ran away. All the beasts―small ones like rabbits and even bears, huge and strong―fled away.
“Now you can see for yourself. There’s no animal that is not afraid of me.”
The fox said proudly. But actually, the beasts were fleeing the tiger himself and not the fox marching before him.
Sometimes we see a similar thing happen around us. Some adults are weak-kneed and fearful even before children. In this case, their parents are financially well off and influential. Actually, they do not fear the children themselves, but their background.
The devil our enemy can do us no harm and retreats when we preach the truth. It is because of the blood of the Passover Lamb in us. God’s judgment were brought upon all the gods of Egypt on the Passover. From this we can see that what the devil fears most is the blood of the Passover Lamb.
Christ, the Passover Lamb
The apostles testified that Christ is the reality of the Passover lamb.
1 Co 5:7-8 『Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast―as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Festival . . .』
The Bible tells us that we are to celebrate the Festival, the Passover, for Christ, our Passover Lamb, has been sacrificed for us, shedding His precious blood. It is really not because we are great and powerful that the devil fears us, but because the precious blood of Christ is given to us.
1 Pe 1:18-19 『For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.』
Eph 1:7 『In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace』
It is not with our wisdom and knowledge that we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins, but through the blood of Christ. The Bible tells us that salvation does not come from us, but only through the precious blood of Christ.
If we consider that we come to salvation because of the blood of Christ sacrificed for us, we can understand why we should obey God’s will and humble ourselves before God.
Christ’s flesh and blood in the Passover
Concerning the blood of the Passover Lamb with which we are redeemed from the empty way of life and from sin and death, Jesus taught us as follows:
1 Jn 6:53-57 『Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him . . . so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.”』
Not only disasters but even sin and death flee from us by the blood of Christ. To put His precious blood into us, God has given us the Passover, the truth of life.
Mt 26:17-19, 26-28 『”‘. . . My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.’” So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover . . . While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”』
Lk 22:7-8, 19-20 『. . . Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.” . . . And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.”』
The Passover is the covenant God has established through His own blood. Without the blood of the Passover Lamb, we can neither escape disasters nor repel the devil. So Christ, the reality of the Passover lamb, has given us the Passover bread and wine as His flesh and blood. He has promised that if we eat His flesh and drink His blood, we remain in Him, and He in us.
Nevertheless, many churches today claim that the Passover doesn’t have to be observed. Are they right? Without the blood of the Passover Lamb, we are apt to be attacked by Satan. For this reason, God has told that if anyone does not celebrate the Passover, he must be cut off from God’s people.
Nu 9:10-13 『”Tell the Israelites: ‘When any of you or your descendants are unclean because of a dead body or are away on a journey, they may still celebrate the LORD’S Passover . . . But if a man who is ceremonially clean and not on a journey fails to celebrate the Passover, that person must be cut off from his people because he did not present the LORD’S offering at the appointed time. That man will bear the consequences of his sin.’”』
If anyone is cut off from God’s people, he will fail to escape disasters and be saved―he will be destined to hell. In the Old Testament times, God’s people could escape the plagues by putting the blood of the Passover lamb on the doorposts and lintels of their houses. In the New Testament times, we can be saved from disasters by eating the flesh of Jesus―the Passover Lamb―and drinking His blood. So God clearly says that without keeping the Passover nobody can be God’s people―he must be cut off from God’s people.
Sacred love contained in the precious blood of Christ
Why does the precious blood of Christ have the power to make disasters pass over? Because it contains His extreme love and sacrifice. The prophet Isaiah prophesied the appearance of Jesus who would come 700 years later as follows:
Isa 53:1-12 『. . . He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.』
We ourselves sinned, but Christ Himself bore the penalty for our sins. Bearing our sins, He was pierced and His body was torn with thorns; He willingly laid down His life for us on the cross. In this He demonstrated His own self-sacrificial love for us. He shed His precious blood for proof that He loved us. So, the destroying angel and even the devil our wicked enemy who know such a story very well, dare not touch us.
In the blood of the Passover covenant is included the love of Christ who has given us life by suffering the extreme pain of His flesh being torn and His blood being shed. All things are subjected to the blood of His sublime sacrifice, to His sacred love.
With such sacrificial blood we are sealed. By the power of the blood, all disasters pass over us.
Ps 91:7-11 『A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. If you make the Most High your dwelling―even the LORD, who is my refuge―then no harm will befall you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways;』
The blood of the Passover lamb in the Old Testament was put on the doorframes and lintels of their houses. In the New Testament, however, the blood of the Passover Lamb is marked on our foreheads and hearts through the new covenant. So, even if the destroying angel comes near us, when he sees the blood of Christ in us, he passes over us. A thousand may fall at our side, ten thousand at our right hand, no disaster comes near us who are sealed by the precious blood of the Lamb in the truth of the Passover, the new covenant. That’s why we can be saved from disasters through the Passover.
Give thanks for the sacrificial love in faith
We are here today owing to the extreme suffering of Christ. Considering this, we have nothing to boast about in the presence of God. We are nothing, absolutely nothing. What is really great and dreadful is the sacrificial blood of the Passover Lamb that makes us become the children of the everlasting kingdom of heaven. So we must not become conceited or proud in heart.
1 Co 4:7 『For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?』
It is foolish for us to hold ourselves at the center of our faith. We can not boast of ourselves; everything we have comes from God: our knowledge, wisdom, good understanding of the Bible, and so on. Those who understand this always cherish the love of Christ; they are patient and kind; they do not boast; they are not proud, just as it is written in 1 Corinthians 13. However, those who forget such mighty grace become conceited or arrogant. The Bible says that God will weep in secret because of our pride.
Some ask, “Does it matter whether or not we commit any sin as we celebrate the Passover?” They greatly misunderstand the Bible. The precious blood of the Passover Lamb is the eraser that removes our sin. On the contrary, our sin dishonors the precious blood of Christ. God has forgiven all our sins, committed in heaven, through the precious blood of Christ. How dare we dishonor and insult the precious blood? If we do, His blood is no more effective for us. Though one’s name is written in the book of life, it may be blotted out of it. So the Bible tells us to hold fast what we have, so that no one will take our crown―the crown of life.
We are to cherish the precious blood of Christ, given to us by His sublime grace. We are most proud of having the forgiveness of sins and eternal life through the Passover. However, what good is it if we do not understand the sacrificial love contained in it? Thinking of the grace and love God has given us, we children of Zion shall give thanks in everything and be joyful always.
We should preach the gospel to all people around the world who still do not know the Passover and are fallen away from salvation and the grace of God, so that they may also cherish the precious blood of Christ in them. We are all here today because of the precious blood of our heavenly Father and Mother, given to us through Their sacrifice. With a more humble heart, let us always give glory to our heavenly Father and Mother and receive abundant blessing.
I have just had a Korean couple here in Auckland, New Zealand speaking of the same thing. They just didn’t want to leave my door step!
How is this anywhere remotely close to the conversation we are having? This is very similar to the frustration I mentioned in the blog. Quoting the Bible does not justify you preaching another gospel. Yes, we know there is truth in the Bible… no question. But, there is nothing quoted here that brings something new to light, I’ve read the through the Bible more than once and I aline my beliefs with it. You quote and then add your own interpretations with the assumptions of a Mother God.
["Thanks to Heavenly Father Christ Ahnsahnghong, the 2nd Coming Christ according to the prophecies of the Bible, for reminding us the precious truth.
Jn. 14:25-26 – 25 “All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the COUNSELOR, THE HOLY SPIRIT, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and WILL REMIND YOU OF EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID TO YOU."]
Jesus was talking to the Apostles and this was literally fulfilled in them during Passover at Pentecost. The Holy Spirit is not a person and has never been represented by one.
This judgement is as real as you claim but you need to examine the scriptures apart from the assumptions you read it with. In Acts Paul praised the town that did not trust his words but examined the scriptures for themselves to see if what he said was true. Do not trust the words of men, women, or even angels that would say anything other than what is written in the scriptures.
Jesus promised that there would be people who would set themselves up as God and lead people astray… ask your self why Christ Ahnsahnghong is not one of these people Jesus Christ prophesied would come. Why choose a prophesy that has a pretty clear literal fulfillment recorded in the Bible over another that seems oddly fitting with Christ Ahnsahnghong?
I assume you know these verses I mention/reference, but if you would like me to point them out just ask.
More doomsday doctrine… Bell, you have got some serious issues. Open your eyes and see that you are being driven by fear. It took me a year to figure out that I was being deceived, how long will it take you?
Hi, Jazmin. i have a 2 friends who somehow got involve with what i like to call a cult. how can i show them the truth?
See if your friends will read some material with you. Read the info on http://www.examiningthewmscog.com and post on the new forum http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forum
Guys..These people have spread all the way to OAHU, more specifically UH MANOA preaching to unsuspecting individuals/students who are not familiar or are new to the bible.
Be vigilant for these people because it is easy to fall into believing “God the Mother” if you are not founded in the bible. As others have mentioned, they provide scriptural verses that are quite convincing. Just read the bible and don’t believe in these false doctrines. Proclaim that Jesus is the only way to heaven, devote your life to him and you will be g in the end. Stay safe all!
I encountered two young women at a mall today (sounds like a common location for these folks) in the Chicago area. They came up to me and said somewhat quietly, “We’d like to talk with you about God the Mother.”. At first I thought I misheard, so I said, “I’m sorry, what?”. The girl who spoke first repeated what she said and then the other girl went into a very lengthy diatribe about how we Christians believe in God the Father and don’t question it, but never recognize the existence of God the Mother. I literally barely spoke two words, except to answer questions like “Where did you learn that there’s a God the Father?”. They said a lot of the same stuff you all have recounted here, about the second coming of Jesus happening before the actual Rapture, and this “God the Mother” being here on earth in the flesh to give us salvation. They weren’t able to show Bible verses because they claimed they had already been kicked out of the mall once for that. They asked me to attend some discussion/meeting, and I politely declined. I never felt afraid or threatened, like these folks might be devil worshippers or something. If anything I just felt sad for them, because they’re misguided and totally reaching for something that doesn’t add up.
Lots of evidence that the founder of the WMSCOG never wrote that he was god and actually praised Jesus. He never wrote about a mother god either. Check it out on http://www.examiningthewmscog.com
Please don’t believe anything that the church of God says The only way of salvation is not through baptism nor good works but it’s by accepting Jesus into our lives and there isn’t 2 creators When God says “Let us make man in Our image ” in Genesis 25 it’s referring to the trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit In the entire bible, there is not a mention of Gods unless God is talking about Idolatry And also God is mentioned as He and there is not a single time that God is mentioned as She Also in John 6:53-58 Nope Jesus is not telling us to be cannibals nor is he saying that we have to be baptized to be saved but in John 6:63 Jesus says that the Spirit gives life and the words that God says is life and btw Who is the bride of Christ? Well the answer is we are the bride of Christ! By being baptized we are declaring that Jesus is our husband/savior and no one can that away from us Just like marrying your wife/husband in real life!
Wow I am long winded lol but any one from the church of God, I challenge you to show me 10 verses from the bible that states that there is a mother god To me there is no female nor male god but there is only God the creator Oh btw Sabbath is on sunday not saturday and I don’t even want to bothered to explain that and there is so much things that I find contradicting when the people from cog tell me all this things that I can type the whole day and not finish and I am just a 2 year old Christian! To end it off, who cares if there is a mother god? God loves us so much that he send Jesus to die for us on the cross, to put all our sins into Him. Jesus went through hell for us. And because of Jesus and through the Holy Spirit we now have a relationship with God Christianity is not a religion filled with doctrines and rules and regulations but Christianity is a relationship with God where we pour out our hearts to Him I go to church not because all my friends are there but because church is my home The bible state that the church is the body of Christ To me its a refuge that I do not need to worry about my problems in life because I know that with God all things are possible Its also a place where I can feel peace in my heart A place of refuge and a sanctuary A place where I can praise and worship God Where I can listen to the word of God preached by many powerful pastors and revelations from them Where I can fellowship with my Christian friends Go out together for outings, eat together, spend time worshipping and praying together and really see life thorough together This is what Christianity is about I am proud to be a son of God I might not be perfect(no one is) and I have disappointed God so many times but the most powerful thing is that God’s forgiveness is renewed everyday God forgets about what we have done and tells us to move forward and forget about the past and look on to the bright future ahead And the final thing is that no one knows when Jesus is coming back and anyone saying that they know the day is just contradicting the bible So that’s all If there is anything that you disagreed with, feel free to comment :)
These guys just came to my door.. When he said God the Mother I said thank you and started closing the door… Mickey Mouse Religions…
Hi, i live in brisbane Australia, these two korean guys came to my door talking about god the mother they were very convincing when they had multiple bible versus to back up their belifs. they are coming back next week to discuss their belifs with me further. Please does anyone know what i should tell them eg bible versus etc to prove that their doctines are false.
I’d check out http://www.examiningthewmscog.com if you have questions, they’ve got good info.
Hello guys!
I have worst experienced too! One of schoolmate invited me to their church. And the ugly thing is they will force u to convert into their religion. It scares me a lot specially when they told me about their MOTHER GOD. stupid!!
Hi,
I live in Botswana, Africa. This past sunday 15 August, a smartly dressed korean couple cam round to my house, they asked if they could speak to me about the bible i welcomed them in, they started showing the same verses in a book as discribed above and asked me if I believe in God Mother, i said to them its my first time to hear of this, i usually go to church and I’ve never heard of this line of belief, told them i would read thier scriptures and think about it, but they then became persistent, insisting on me to say I believe now, so that they baptise me immediately, thats when I realised something is not right. I asked them if they belived in the trinity at least but just they got agitated and confused, thats when I realised I must be talking to people from a cult or a weired organisation, so I googled the church next morning, was relieved to see my intuion was right.
Thank you James for posting it. Like others, I encountered it and tried to find all I can on the internet about this new belief, and just saw your blog today.
This group of people have been all over the world. I’m from Denver, CO. There are so many of them on my campus – Auraria Campus (downtown Denver, CO).
The first time was somewhere last year (2010) on campus. I was very confused and frustrated. So, I decided to stay away from them.
This year, I encountered this twice. The first time (of this year), I listened because one of my friend is in it. But still, really frustrated in my mind.
And the third time, which is today, two girls approached me, and I decided to hear them out, all out, just because I want to see what it’s really about, with a hope that I could find some contradict or interesting sayings from them.
Thanks God! The more I listened to them, the more I realized how wrong this is. This time, I wasn’t angry or confused anymore. I was just so awake! And in my mind when I was listening to them, Revelation 13 and 17 kept appearing, and also the words about false teachers, false prophecies, and anti-Christ from the New Testament (couldn’t remember the address).
What I’m worried is at first, there were only Koreans on my campus, now some other students got pulled into this too.
Now, I feel frustrated because there’s nothing I can do about this (besides praying)!
I had a similar experience here in Mangalore, India when two Korean guys came to my door talking about god mother they were trying their best to convince me with few Bible verses.
Ahn Sahng-Hong (or Ahnsahnghong) (1918 – 25 February 1985) founded the World Mission Society Church of God in Korean, which considers him the second coming of Jesus. They say that history repeats itself and say that this Korean man came to earth to forgive people sins by Passover. This man was married to several woman in his life, and one of his ex’s (Zahng Gil-Jah)claims to be our heavenly mother.. can this be true? no.. i dont think so, this lady is currently living in Korea now and claims to be GOD.
Matthew 7:15
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
Just believe in God don’t follow people, check this long list of people claimed to be Jesus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus
Welcome to the reality of the world. More and more people are trying to find the “revelation” bc they are really lost.
The sisters that approached me said we are lost beings, but our mother does not look for us directly, WHY? They replied, “the mother is looking at us NOW”
Anyhow, I bet the founder of this new “religion” was so lost that he had to go to the immortal region. They have spread all over the world – 150 countries and growing I suppose. Thank you for starting with this rants and honestly, they give a second thought to what’s happening today
I went through the same exact thing. These people from this “Church of God” are well rehearsed, and from testimonies I’ve been reading, they ALL say the same EXACT things. I am from Virginia Beach, and I just moved here, I was raised Catholic, and it had been 2 years since I’ve been to church, so I wasnt prepared to defend my faith, and got pulled into this church.
They prayed to “Christ Anganghong” I noticed this the same moment i was getting babtised,when I heard this “angsanghong” name i was like…”Wait A minute!!, who the heck is this Angsangong guy?”
Then I figured it MUST be another name for Jesus..i mean…they are the church of God, they know the bible, it must be Jesus Christ in Hebrew or something…yes I was that dumb.
then after 2 months of going, i finally decided to do a research on them. I wasnt sure of a lot of things they did. Like expect me to stay ALL day on Saturday, and go to their Tuesdays service…uhhh…i work full time, and i have a husband and a daughter. i am not going to spend one of our only days off TOGETHR all day praying.
i researched and when I found out who Anganshong is, and how this “Heavenoly Mother” is a korean lady who is still alive.
They had me worshipping these humans (one dead one alive) as if they were God, more important than jesus, or Jehova….
one of the ladies called me asking when i was going to my next study, and i told her i wasnt going to attend anymore, and i felt upset that they had me worshippping Gods that MY heart wouldnt allowe me to believe in, and that I have God in my heart and I didnt think he was sending me to hell just because i didnt believe in “mother God” or “Angsanghong”
the response i got from her
“You’re thinking like the Jews. If you dont follow God’s commandments, God wont help you”
ummmmm, i do follow his commandments, not 100%, but I know that’s why Jesus came to save us and pay for our sins.
I am sorry, but I do not believe in “Anganghong” or “mother god”
I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST.